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Furry Chat => General => Topic started by: Rocco Rex on November 09, 2016, 08:05:42 AM
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So Trump won. What is your reaction?
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Were screwed. Its bad enough that arrogant misogynistic racist got in there but hes got a republican house and senate to so for the next 4 years this country is his personal piggy bank. But not to worry weve seen what happens when somebody hurts his feelings so after putin or kim jung un offeneds the little baby hes gonna go off on a 3am twitter storm and get us killed in a nuclear armagedon so we really dont have to worry about how badly hes gonna destroy this country
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It's not that I'm scared of Trump himself, but I'm more worried about what his
apostles supporters will do.
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Ayvda. Arrogant I fully agree with. Misogynist racist? Disagree. And I totally doubt he'd start a war with Russia.
Fox. I'm more worried about the anti Trumpers, like the ones who said they'd go on shooting sprees or declare war. Trump supporters are happy now, they think everything is great
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Precautionary message: Make sure to keep the discussion civil and treat others with respect.
Thank you.
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wheres the im moving to the south pole option?
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This is what I wrote on facebook and I think it is applicable here
Trump wins and I'm down $20 (https://www.facebook.com/images/emoji.php/v5/f9f/1/16/1f61b.png) :P , but in all seriousness I think a lot of people are not understanding why people voted for trump. Like a lot of people go that people who voted trump are racist, that they're sexist and what-not, I disagree, sure in the Red states I would believe this might be the case (they would vote for the republican nominee whomever he was) but for the swing states it was something different.
Trump had one thing going for them, that it he was the one to bring about change, to get rid of the corrupt "olden-day" of politics and create a new era, people wanted a new era, so much so that they'd be willing to vote in someone that they disagreed with fundamentally just to shake up the system, just to get a change the political system.
All the democratic party had to do was be hated less than trump, they didn't need people to like them, they just needed to be hated less than trump. Hilary, with the FBI scandle and the wikileaks about her, as well as her foundation being accused as a front for political donations. She represented the old days of politics, the general corrupt politician, and people hated it, more than they hated trump. If Bernie was the presidential nominee, the democrats probably would have won.
Trump isn't going to destroy the world, he isn't going to be absolutely terrible, he'll be similar to a Tony Abbott I think. But I do want to say one thing, Trump shaking up the system, voting for trump for that reason, it relies on a lot going right, maybe some people don't care if it goes right, as long as it changes. I want to say that you are probably going to be wrong, to believe that Trump will change the system, that trump isn't corrupt or isn't going to be a standard politician, I think you are wrong. I think what he's been telling you, the atmosphere he has given off, I think it's wrong, I think he's been lying to you, to all of us, this entire time. We'll see if that guess is true.
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Too many friends have already gone suicidel because of it.
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How many of you wanted Trump to win
Im a Canadian thow and Trump did i think the US needed him ^_^
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I voted for him. More of an anti Hillary vote. I like some of Trump's ideas IF he'll follow through, but don't trust him
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I voted for him. More of an anti Hillary vote. I like some of Trump's ideas IF he'll follow through, but don't trust him
I don't trust Hillary her eyes are a window to the soul and i seen nothing but evil
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Let's say I'm having a non-stop laugh today.
2016 has been a great year for politics: Brexit, Trump
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Well, I supported Trump (as a Belgian you can get figuratively lynched for this)
And now I love the sweet salty liberal tears
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Exactly fang! So much lying, self serving, and corruption. I may not trust Trump, but I sure as hell trust Hillary to use the Presidency for her own gain and get us into WWIII with Russia and/or China.
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Exactly fang! So much lying, self serving, and corruption. I may not trust Trump, but I sure as hell trust Hillary to use the Presidency for her own gain and get us into WWIII with Russia and/or China.
exactly trump is better of the two poisons
Post Merge: November 09, 2016, 06:14:42 PM
Well, I supported Trump (as a Belgian you can get figuratively lynched for this)
And now I love the sweet salty liberal tears
the country will stay free
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Its time for a new world order
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Its time for a new world order
That's actually a large reason I'm dead set against Hillary. She's pro NWO. No thank you.
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*Considering this thread is what it is, If I see any flaming or drama, this thread will be locked and people will be warned*
Also, I don't know much about either candidates, but I think I wanted Trump to win the least.
From the media I saw covering him, he seemed childish. I mean, he couldn't be worse than the president of my country, but then again the president here doesn't have as much global power.
I'm personally interested to see how things go with Trump. He's a business man with an agenda and either he "fixes" what wasn't broken or shatters it from itself or the rest of the world. Also sitting here, glad that I don't have any family ties, or that my country has political ties with America. Though we do have ties with China, so lol.
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Ready to get your minds blown? According to the statistics, Clinton got more votes from the general public. Why did Trump win anyways? He got more electoral votes. This system is weird.
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She has more popular vote for now, we don't know how it will end. And yes, the Electoral College system is stupid, even though it got who I wanted elected
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Let me put it like this.
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I'd vote Elmo for president.
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Cant really be to surprised Im certainly a little surprised.
People are angry because of the failure of Globalist Economics thats why he got support in traditionally blue states.
Why is everyone super horrified? Clinton wasn't much better she just talked nicey nice populism.
Also couldn't care less if she won the popular vote last election they had evidence of Early Democratic voters being carted around to vote multiple times in multiple districts they most likely repeated it this year but not as many black voters showed up because they are disillusioned.
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Ready to get your minds blown? According to the statistics, Clinton got more votes from the general public. Why did Trump win anyways? He got more electoral votes. This system is weird.
The electoral system is a bit screwed, but it made more sense at the time of inception, I think. We're due for a new one, but I doubt direct democracy is the way to go. There's too many issues with it.
Anyway, my view is basically the same as Anoni's, except not so grim at the last few sentences. I'm neutral but hopeful at that part. He might actually do something good, or he might be dreadful, but still spark change in other ways. Even if it's indirect change, it might be better than the same old-same old corruption. It's a very dangerous road to take toward that goal, but I don't think people should be treated as all "moronic racist/sexist/homophobic/xenophobic/bigoted white people" for hoping that's what it will take.
I was for Bernie before he was shoved out of the race, by the way. If only he had a chance.
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I mean, I was pretty happy he got in. It was mainly because I despise Clinton with a passion
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I mean, I was pretty happy he got in. It was mainly because I despise Clinton with a passion
Hehe same people like Hillery are the biggest enemies to progress.
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I voted for him. More of an anti Hillary vote. I like some of Trump's ideas IF he'll follow through, but don't trust him
Same Same
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One thing is sure: the democrats sure need alot to clean up because if they don't change, they will come in serious issues.
Side-note: the Libertarians absolutely rocked this election
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*Considering this thread is what it is, If I see any flaming or drama, this thread will be locked and people will be warned*
Also, I don't know much about either candidates, but I think I wanted Trump to win the least.
From the media I saw covering him, he seemed childish. I mean, he couldn't be worse than the president of my country, but then again the president here doesn't have as much global power.
I'm personally interested to see how things go with Trump. He's a business man with an agenda and either he "fixes" what wasn't broken or shatters it from itself or the rest of the world. Also sitting here, glad that I don't have any family ties, or that my country has political ties with America. Though we do have ties with China, so lol.
Never trust American Media just dont.
They are pretty polarized
Post Merge: November 10, 2016, 12:35:58 AM
To clarify on the the worst Offenders FOX painted Hillery as a crazy criminal grandma and all the Liberal stations CNN MSNBC ETC painted Trump as the Next Hitler Mussolini Stalin and Mao combined.
They literally said he was a Fascist XD and as we all know that word means nothing anymore.
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I was supporting trump, pretty happy he won the election.
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The US and "Trump won, your reaction?" were on the same topic so they've been merged.
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America is about to become very violent, unpleasant, and hostile. If your a minority/gay/trans I recommend extreme caution if you live in America :|
On the plus side without any checks against global warming, many parts of the coasts and most of Florida is going to leave America to join the nation known as "The ocean floor". YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
((No, I do not actually want Florida, or the rest of america, to end up on the ocean floor. It was a lighthearted comment designed to demonstrate one of my other worries. The YAAAAAAAY was sarcastic. I apologize if the humor was unclear/Not funny.))
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I'm a straight, white, cis man living in the middle class. I have to watch what I say about my opinion on the election in public. Otherwise, I could very well get ganged up on by upset idealogues who believe me sexist, racist and bigoted because I didn't vote Hillary as such a person. Mind you, I didn't vote Trump, either.
The reactions to this election sicken me. The reactions to those who didn't vote Trump are retarded. The citizens are going to tear each other apart before he even gets sworn in, at this rate.
Trump is not Hitler. Trump is not a savior. Saying either is speculative and espousing it as fact is so ignorant it hurts. However, wikileaks and the FBI are not speculation.
My vote on the poll? At least it wasn't Hillary.
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Well, Trump can never make all promises true. And they almost always act differently whilst being president compared to how they acted during elections. I don't know what difference it would make between Hillary as president or Trump as president, and it's very likely we'll never know.
I wish you lot the least bad, and I'll leave the president story behind me. Since I'm not an US citizen I think I've paid more than enough attention to it for now.
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Look...it is was it is. It's done and over and I'm not gonna sit in my room pouting if I voted for Hillary or go out and celebrate if I voted for Donald. The point is that I can't change my vote beyond this point and neither can anyone else. The votes have been cast and this is the result.
I will admit that one thing extremely pisses me off about this election. Not a lot of people seemed to take it seriously and as a result they either didn't vote or (Like 15,000 morons who voted for fecking Harambe) wasted their vote and are now complaining. It is my strong belief that your vote is your voice so if you don't use it then like you should then don't use it now because it's already too late. If you didn't vote (unless you're underaged) then you contributed nothing towards the results and therefore have no right to complain about them. That complaining is what makes me think you're stupid to be honest.
The only other thing I find upsetting is other's reactions. For example, earlier today I saw a post on instagram that said "if you voted for trump unfollow me right now" and it was captioned "if you voted for that [guy] then I refuse to be friends with you. I don't owe you a chance at that point because you're a racist, bigot...[etc.]" Now this person promotes equality among all aspects and then scapegoats anyone simply because of where they put a checkmark? That is beyond baffling to me. I've seen several individuals do something similar and to be honest about what my reaction is...Trump gained the States of America under his presidency but that's all he gets. There's no United in that phrase anymore. We claim to be United but we are clearly anything but. People are seriously having a cyber civil war at this point and it fecking irritates me...again We can't change what has already happened so get over it.
Will Trump be a good president? I don't know. But I'm not going to let it bother me. Why? Because one thing that most people forget....is that he may be in "power" but that doesn't mean he's in power. He still has to get approval for most anything he does through the powers of the legislative and/or judicial branches. Granted it's easier they're all Republicans but that doesn't change the constitution. He's not going to be able to do as much as he's said he's going to do because of that. It's like a step down for him actually because he has to get approval for what he does instead of just doing it and he's not used to that. It's going to slow anything he wants to do down.
I'm going to continue to live my life my way regardless of whom is president. So overall my reaction is exactly as I stated first. It is what it is.
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Personally, I feel like any and all judgements about trump should be put to rest now that he is actually president. See, it's like the "on the spot" fallacy. "If I gave you a million dollars, would you do [insert extreme task that you wouldn't do if it wasn't for a million dollars." Without the money there, you're probably going to say no, but if it was in your reach, you might think it over a little.
Now that Trump has to actually work within his position, I personally think it might be interesting to see what he does and doesn't advocate. He talked so much trash when he was up running for president, so who knows; now that he actually is president, he might make a pretty decent one.
And while I admit to having made comments like "Oh god, the world is doomed, trump won," and the such, they were nothing more than jokes. Some people actually do believe that he is going to cause economic crashes, and world war 3 and stuff. The fact is, we can't fault Trump for actions he hasn't yet done. In actuality, his acceptance speech was actually quite mature of him, especially when he addressed Clinton in a respectful manner. So yeah... Maybe give it a little bit of time first before jumping to "FML TRUMP WON, TIME TO DRINK BLEACH" and stuff XP
((Please don't ever jump to drinking bleach or any overly acidic or basic substance though.))
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I honestly do not care about trump winning. It's the overreaction of everyone else!
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I voted other.
Honestly, I don't care.
I'm far more concerned about state and local elections.
Most of my family voted for Trump but that doesn't make them bad people. Just as someone who voted for Hillary isn't a bad person. We all just want to see our country survive, and we all have different opinions on how we can accomplish just that.
It's just a part of living in a free country--we should be thankful that we have options.
I was impressed with Trump's acceptance speech as well, hopefully things will be looking up more than what happened prior to his election.
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I voted other.
Honestly, I don't care.
I'm far more concerned about state and local elections.
Most of my family voted for Trump but that doesn't make them bad people. Just as someone who voted for Hillary isn't a bad person. We all just want to see our country survive, and we all have different opinions on how we can accomplish just that.
It's just a part of living in a free country--we should be thankful that we have options.
I was impressed with Trump's acceptance speech as well, hopefully things will be looking up more than what happened prior to his election.
I do as well, but I am a huge pessimist when it comes to anyone in elected office.
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To be honest, I'm pleasantly surprised with how civil you all are in this thread. I was worried people would be at each others' throats about it on here after a while. Calling all Trump supporters "stupid bigots" and all Hillary supporters "whiny SJWs" is not the way to go. We make change through unity, not division. Calm examining, not angry knee-jerking. We all had our reasons for voting how we did, many (if not most) were not extremists by any stretch and simply chose what they felt was the "lesser evil", or what bad they can handle in the long term hope for good. We have a long way to go to get our system in order, but any effort is better than none.
That said, I'm very proud of you guys. Keep being awesome! :3
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To be honest, I'm pleasantly surprised with how civil you all are in this thread. I was worried people would be at each others' throats about it on here after a while. Calling all Trump supporters "stupid bigots" and all Hillary supporters "whiny SJWs" is not the way to go. We make change through unity, not division. Calm examining, not angry knee-jerking. We all had our reasons for voting how we did, many (if not most) were not extremists by any stretch and simply chose what they felt was the "lesser evil", or what bad they can handle in the long term hope for good. We have a long way to go to get our system in order, but any effort is better than none.
That said, I'm very proud of you guys. Keep being awesome! :3
Whatever you do, do not go over to the FA forums and browse threads like this.
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To be honest, I'm pleasantly surprised with how civil you all are in this thread. I was worried people would be at each others' throats about it on here after a while. Calling all Trump supporters "stupid bigots" and all Hillary supporters "whiny SJWs" is not the way to go. We make change through unity, not division. Calm examining, not angry knee-jerking. We all had our reasons for voting how we did, many (if not most) were not extremists by any stretch and simply chose what they felt was the "lesser evil", or what bad they can handle in the long term hope for good. We have a long way to go to get our system in order, but any effort is better than none.
That said, I'm very proud of you guys. Keep being awesome! :3
Whatever you do, do not go over to the FA forums and browse threads like this.
Oh yeah, I don't plan to. I've heard bad things about the FA forums to begin with, so I'm not shocked to hear there's awful stuff about the election on there.
This forum and the fandom in general is generally left-leaning and has plenty of LGBT members (including myself), so I'm extra happy members are so civil here and willing to think and discuss before raging at those who don't completely agree.
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Oh, I was ready to rage my butt off the first chance I got, but after a few days, I just got to the point where I realized that would be pointless.
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I don't think it's wrong to be angry. I don't think anyone can blame anyone for being angry about everything. The big thing is how that anger is channeled.
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To be honest, I'm pleasantly surprised with how civil you all are in this thread. I was worried people would be at each others' throats about it on here after a while. Calling all Trump supporters "stupid bigots" and all Hillary supporters "whiny SJWs" is not the way to go. We make change through unity, not division. Calm examining, not angry knee-jerking. We all had our reasons for voting how we did, many (if not most) were not extremists by any stretch and simply chose what they felt was the "lesser evil", or what bad they can handle in the long term hope for good. We have a long way to go to get our system in order, but any effort is better than none.
That said, I'm very proud of you guys. Keep being awesome! :3
Whatever you do, do not go over to the FA forums and browse threads like this.
Oh yeah, I don't plan to. I've heard bad things about the FA forums to begin with, so I'm not shocked to hear there's awful stuff about the election on there.
This forum and the fandom in general is generally left-leaning and has plenty of LGBT members (including myself), so I'm extra happy members are so civil here and willing to think and discuss before raging at those who don't completely agree.
I switched from left-lib to centrist-right authoritarian but the way to discuss politics is simple: civil pleasant discussions
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Personally, the first day I was outraged and wanted to do this and do that and cause a fuss. But it really didn't seem worth it a few days later. Politics suck.
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Absolutely nothing will happen, is my reaction. For the 14 people that hate this result, at least it matches up with the currently "shared" popular vote results meant to put some aloe vera on the anger.
13 For, 14 Against, 1 Other
I was honestly expecting the results on the forum to be more like 3 For, 23 Against, 2 Other :P
If it's any consolation, I would have voted for Bernie Sanders if the DNC hadn't decided to betray their own voters. This is the result that democrats deserve, honestly.
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Absolutely nothing will happen, is my reaction. For the 14 people that hate this result, at least it matches up with the currently "shared" popular vote results meant to put some aloe vera on the anger.
13 For, 14 Against, 1 Other
I was honestly expecting the results on the forum to be more like 3 For, 23 Against, 2 Other :P
If it's any consolation, I would have voted for Bernie Sanders if the DNC hadn't decided to betray their own voters. This is the result that democrats deserve, honestly.
To be fair I had my year of politics: Socialists in Belgium getting BTFO'd, Brexit happening and now Trump. Things can't get any better
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Absolutely nothing will happen, is my reaction. For the 14 people that hate this result, at least it matches up with the currently "shared" popular vote results meant to put some aloe vera on the anger.
13 For, 14 Against, 1 Other
I was honestly expecting the results on the forum to be more like 3 For, 23 Against, 2 Other :P
If it's any consolation, I would have voted for Bernie Sanders if the DNC hadn't decided to betray their own voters. This is the result that democrats deserve, honestly.
I was a diehard Bernie supporter as well, and would have voted for him in a heartbeat if the DNC hadn't decided to screw him over and try and maintain politics as usual.
I fully expect him to run again in 2020 possibly even Elizabeth Warren as well.
Also, Ron Perlman announced he is running in 2020.
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I sure hope Bernie runs again, we seriously need someone like him. Problem is if he would really want to. Barely anyone pays attention to independents, and I doubt he'd want to have another go with the DNC after the shit they did to him. If I remember correctly, the only reason he moved to the Democrats was because that was the only way to have a chance with this dung pile of a party system.
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I'm affraid the Democrats have suffered too much damage now.
They lost majority of the governors, congress and soon to follow: the supreme court
Basically they would have to re-invent themselves but for now the democrats have the image of being the representatives of greed, corruption and betrayal
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I sure hope Bernie runs again, we seriously need someone like him. Problem is if he would really want to. Barely anyone pays attention to independents, and I doubt he'd want to have another go with the DNC after the shit they did to him. If I remember correctly, the only reason he moved to the Democrats was because that was the only way to have a chance with this dung pile of a party system.
He has said that he won't rule out running again, but I think in 2020 we will see Elizabeth Warren make a bid for the White House.
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I think Trump is an idiot. But politics is a funny business and I think some good can come from him. If nothing else I think career politicians needed to hear the message "people are sick of politicians".
I'm not a big fan of Popes either, but if you want to get a calendar changed a Pope is the best choice historically, and sometimes calendars need changing. So I'm being optimistic.
Best of luck to my US friends :D
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I don't want to be rude but sometimes people just overeact for nothing, just wait and see what is gonna happen. For now I don't see any problem with trump.
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I don't want to be rude but sometimes people just overeact for nothing, just wait and see what is gonna happen. For now I don't see any problem with trump.
The most telling thing about a president is what he does in those first 100 days.
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I don't want to be rude but sometimes people just overeact for nothing, just wait and see what is gonna happen. For now I don't see any problem with trump.
The issue now is this: there has been such a dirty campaign from the democrats against Trump that said democrats are now getting stuck in the hysteria they were creating.
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My reaction: Atleast we avoided world war 3. People in my home country are speculating that russia might invaid (this is due to trumps opinion on Nato) which kinda sucks if it happens. But on the other hand, having hillary in power, no fly zone syria, blaming russia for wiki leaks with threat to use physical attacks on them if it happens again (even though she has no evidence that they actually did it which i think they don't but instead was another whistle blower gone anon)
i kinda like this outcome more.
Then what will happen to america, i think we are in for a quite intressting 4 years.
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I can't wait for the salt at Disneyland.
(http://i.imgur.com/VTQYteB.png)
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I can't wait for the salt at Disneyland.
(http://i.imgur.com/VTQYteB.png)
This is like adding hitler to the hall of presidents for some, got to say, this gives me a good laugh :)
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Like adding Hitler -- although he hasn't even done anything of the sort yet. I get being worried about him (he's making me a bit nervous as well, but not to "Hitler" level, christ.), but acting like he's ALREADY Hitler is far too much. I'm certain we have enough checks to prevent that shit, even with republicans taking up the majority in branches. I'm certain they'd be far from okay with holocaust-esque actions, and the populace at large can't be stupid enough to let that shit fly anyway, after Hitler became the example.
I know that was a joke, by the way, but it really does piss me off that others LEGITIMATELY think he's Hitler already. If anything, they should judge him for the shit he's actually done now. There's plenty to pick at without exaggerating to hell.
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My reaction is thus: Firstly, thank God Hillary lost. With all of the investigations against her, with all of the crap she did as Secretary of State that she ended up having to step down in order to save face, she belongs in prison, not the White House. Not to mention how badly she wants that No-fly zone in Syria, which the top brass of the military has come out saying that would cost several thousand Syrian lives and lead to a potential war with Russia. The Democrats really did pick the worst candidate to run against Trump and doubled down on their bad choice.
Secondly, Trump, while he does have a mouth on him and he does make 'locker room' jokes, he's not what the Main Stream Media paints him out to be. If anything, the true propaganda of hate came from the media. I think this country needs a businessman to get the economy flowing, rather than a politician who's never run a business in their life. If he can do at least some of what he's claimed he wants to do (drain the political swamp, secure the boarder, roll back on regulations that have been stifling job creation and growth, put school management back fully into the hands of states), I think we will see America start to really recover.
Thirdly, this is an opportunity, no matter which side of the political isle you are on. Someone who is not an establishment politician has managed to win the presidency, and I hope this scares the bejeezus out of career politicians. It sends a message that no, the political establishment DOESN'T know what's best for America. They ARE out of touch with reality, and the only thing they have been focusing on up until now isn't the troubles plaguing our country, but how one side can mitigate and demonize the other. With Trump's win, it shows that you do not need to be a politician to run for office. If you have strong ideas, a strong plan and the willingness to learn the system, the average American can run against these political elites and WIN.
Now, is this going to be four years of sunshine and lollipops? Of course not. Is it going to be the apocalypse? Far from it. Regardless, I am going to watch what happens from the moment he takes office and judge what he does, the good and bad. Right now there is so much ridiculous fear mongering going on, all based on what MIGHT happen, fueled by the main stream media's desire to keep pushing agendas.