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Re: Mass Effect 3 (ending spoilers)
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2012, 05:41:58 AM »
Well when you put it that way, I see that I was judging people's reactions to it completely wrong. I will say that I am very dissapointed with the plot holes, lack of closure, and the fact that I don't get to see the army of Elcor storming through London. That all would have been great to see and I completely agree that if that's what people are blaming the horrible ending on, then yes.


I think I was just caught up believing that everyone was pissed about the ending because of Shepard dying no matter what and only being given three choices as to how to set the universe right. Like any stuck up movie critic I was stuck analyzing the meaning of the ending rather than actually paying attention to the things that were actually wrong.

With that said, I still stand by my statement that the actual message of the ending was a good one. That organics (humans or what not) are naturally a source of chaos. We go to war with eachother, we kill, we steal, we rape and pillage, so on and so forth. To an artificial intelligence, we are too dangerous to be kept alive for too long. So this "god child" is the balancing force of the galaxy. The fact that Shepard met the child showed that there is hope in organic life, but no matter what, the cycle must continue. So as much as I would have loved to see the renegade option where you tell the kid to screw off (They should have put that in there) you still need to be reminded of the mortality of organics. That we can't live with a certain God complex and, in a sense, need to be purged to allow room for the less advanced to live their own way.


So that's my take on the ending. I completely understand that the writers done f-ed up with multiple other things, and I take back what I said about not wanting a new ending. Although I absolutely despise DLC. Thoughts?

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Re: Mass Effect 3 (ending spoilers)
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2012, 06:07:11 PM »
I think it's very cheap, "forcing" people to get them just to make more money, when I'm sure they are making tons already.

This video focuses more on the DLC aspect and how BioWare is making a fool of themselves, and not at all on the ending. I've watched it before and I recommend it even if it's a tad outdated. I fully agree with it.
Why I think Bioware has gone too far with Mass Effect 3
"Now, since this is available on launch, and it is indeed not simply a piece of cosmetic content, that means that the development budget has been spent on content which is not widely available for everybody. So that means, quite obviously, that the game, on launch,  is not complete. the products that you buy, on the shelf, or on Steam, (if it is not the collector's edition, which I might add costs more) is not. Content. Complete."
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Re: Mass Effect 3 (ending spoilers)
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2012, 11:45:53 PM »
Well when you put it that way, I see that I was judging people's reactions to it completely wrong. I will say that I am very dissapointed with the plot holes, lack of closure, and the fact that I don't get to see the army of Elcor storming through London. That all would have been great to see and I completely agree that if that's what people are blaming the horrible ending on, then yes.


I think I was just caught up believing that everyone was pissed about the ending because of Shepard dying no matter what and only being given three choices as to how to set the universe right. Like any stuck up movie critic I was stuck analyzing the meaning of the ending rather than actually paying attention to the things that were actually wrong.

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So that's my take on the ending. I completely understand that the writers done f-ed up with multiple other things, and I take back what I said about not wanting a new ending. Although I absolutely despise DLC. Thoughts?


I actually like the idea of DLC and how SOME developers use it. Bethesda for example, with Oblivion and hopefully Skyrim. With ME 3 however, I don't know. My feelings will ultimately depend on what all they expand on with the free "Extended Cut" ending that comes out this summer. I actually managed to get one of the two endings where Shepard survives, so... we'll see.


My two big things that I want changed? The Mass Relays either don't get destroyed or are rebuilt, and a dialog option where we get to prove the God Child wrong if we managed to bring a peaceful end to the Geth/Quarian War. If we do that, then we should be able to use that as proof against the God Child's claim that synthetics and organics can never peacefully coexist.

If those two things are added to the ME3 ending, then I will be pacified.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 (ending spoilers)
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2012, 01:30:37 AM »
I agree, some companies get it right. There was a rage comic that put it perfectly that I saw the other day. DLC should be the company giving you more cake, not the rest of the cake that you already ordered. Even if it is free, it's a pain to have to download the rest of your game. Bethesda does it right. They say if the game's not how they want it when release date rolls around, they won't release it. But I'm a little excited to see what this new "extended cut" entails.

 

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