yessir, my stubbornness has gotten me a long way, for those of you who have not told your parents about wanting to wear a collar, or tell them that you wear a collar, or are hiding that from them, don't worry about it, i live in one of the least socially accepting parts of the country, and my mom was just fine with it, hell she supported it, finding me an alternative collar when they would not let me wear my spiked leather one. the worst they can do is say no. (that's when you do it behind their back)