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Re: what is YOUR zombie plan?!
« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2011, 05:02:27 PM »
interesting to see different peoples plans, with some guns you do need to be able to handle the kick back ( shot guns for example). LMG are light they shouldnt be to hevey to carry and most do have solder straps. you could make a game out of killing zombies.... detanin the ones that where your family and friends till you find a cure...

first off, good luck getting any kind of fully automatic gun.
second, recoil(what you are calling kick back) is more manageable then you think. for example, my 12 gauge is much more comfortable to shoot then my .45
in fact any kind of shot gun is going to be your best option in a zombie out break, they are the easiest things to shoot well, and when you have to obliterate your enemies brain in order to immobilize it, the ease of operation, combined with the damage a shot gun can do, makes it pretty tough to beat.
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Re: what is YOUR zombie plan?!
« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2011, 05:15:20 PM »
Ok so i wont be able to get a auto, but still i live not to far from a sports store ( out door spots like hunting ) they do sell rifles cross bows and other stuff there. Most shot guns dont hold a lot of ammo, and are best at close range. A rifle on the other hand can hold alot of ammo and you can also attach scopes to them making it esear to  shoot the zombie. The cross bows on the other hand depending on the type of arrow can do more damage, and can be reused also if there strong enough you can impale the zombie.
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Re: what is YOUR zombie plan?!
« Reply #32 on: August 10, 2011, 05:50:15 PM »
Ok so i wont be able to get a auto, but still i live not to far from a sports store ( out door spots like hunting ) they do sell rifles cross bows and other stuff there. Most shot guns dont hold a lot of ammo, and are best at close range. A rifle on the other hand can hold alot of ammo and you can also attach scopes to them making it esear to  shoot the zombie. The cross bows on the other hand depending on the type of arrow can do more damage, and can be reused also if there strong enough you can impale the zombie.

yes, but rifles require skill. it is very hard to hit a head sized target at a distance. it takes a good bit of practice to do it consistently. another thing to consider, is scopes have to be sighted in, you cant just put it on there and expect to hit what ever your cross hairs are on, at any distance. with a scoped rifle, they are sighted in at a certain distance. my current rifle is set in at 50 yards. at that distance, it will chew a hole out of the center of a target, but the second i step out to 100 yards, things start to get interesting. the only reason i would bring my rifle with me in case of zombies is because it is great for things like rabbits, and other small game. you cant always count on food, so having a way to hunt it is always a good idea. not to mention, .22 ammo is light and it is every where. your averaged size shoe box holds about 1500 rounds, and that can last you a very long time. compared to a lot of other rounds, a .22 is also pretty quiet as well.

while it would be nice to have my dads old deer rifle, i wouldn't use it for taking out zombies. sure, being able to reach out and take down something at 200 yards is nice, but if the zombie is that far away, im more concerned with putting even more distance between me and it, then shooting off something that makes a lot of noise, noise that attracts more zombies.

now a crossbow, that would be great to have, silent, does not have the ammo issues a gun has, and at 25-50 yards, extremely deadly. you would be able to practice with it as much as you wanted, and never have to worry about running out of ammo. the only down side is time between shots. stringing a cross bow is not the fastest thing, where a compound bow may be a little quicker in that area.

while you say close range weapons may not be the best, i say 25 yards is more then enough, and 25 yards happens to be a great distance for a shot gun, depending on the ammo in use. personally, id rather have 6 shots of 00 Buck then 20 or so rounds in a rifle. while i have no problem hitting a paper target at the range, the second you introduce outside factors, like running, going for a moving target, and adrenaline, it becomes much harder to hit what you aim at.
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Re: what is YOUR zombie plan?!
« Reply #33 on: August 10, 2011, 07:09:36 PM »
I agree with shnutzy on this. I'd make sure I had a close range weapon like a bat or a sword (bat probably preffered) and something with re-useable ammunition, like a bow or crossbow. That way, most of my attacks are silent and are effective at slowing down/incapaciting the zombie's.

although most of the time I would try my hardest to avoid them and keep out of sight. Not going into cities and towns, more on the outskirts. Using fighting them as a last resort. also I'd make sure I kept moving. never staying in one place at a time. I'd move at daytoo, where visibility is higher for me allowing me to get around a bit easier. Though I would still keep vigilant and try my hardest to stay downwind from them and out of sight. the only things I would carry are a melee weapon and my secondary ranged weapon, a quiver and a backpack of food and water (food to be placed in socks so it doesn't clang.) after about a year of moving about I would settle down and start trying to farm for crops, using canned food to keep me alive while theyt grew until I had a re-useable harvest of fruit and vegetables, hunting animals for meat.


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Re: what is YOUR zombie plan?!
« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2011, 09:04:27 PM »
get semi-auto, why cuz u dont want to waste bullets, so i would stick with 9mm bullets, good for close combat and very light. a glock17 can hold 20 rounds in the mag which is good enough. dont need anything high end like an AK47 (7.68mm) or .45 UMP45...

i would rather have a lot of ammo cuz the zombies are probably broken and stuff...



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Re: what is YOUR zombie plan?!
« Reply #35 on: August 10, 2011, 09:19:35 PM »
First I would need a close-range weapon, an axe or hammer for head kills.
If I was lucky, I would get a WWI Trench spike as it was designed for fighting in extremely close range combat. (http://arms2armor.com/Knives/m1trench.jpg)

I would only bother with pistols when it's too close for my rifle or there are multiple undead getting close. Beyond that, I would do what I can with a hunting rifle as that ammo is the most common to find beyond 9mm rounds.

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Re: what is YOUR zombie plan?!
« Reply #36 on: August 10, 2011, 09:37:57 PM »
Ah, the debates I've in school about this, I actually scared my friend with my plan (You'll see why).

1.Finding out about the outbreak, If the zombie horde is still building up, search for a secure safehouse to live in before it gets too out of control, or if I find out by being attacked and survived get to the nearest Kitchen and arm myself with various culinary equipment.

2.Where I live there is a weapons shop just down the road, so I will head straight there for better equipment, and as a backup, my dad knows a guy that sells them.

3.Find the nearest supermarket and loot supplies, possibly try and setup a safe route to and from it to ease restocks

4.either wait for a government/military solution, or live as long as possible

My policies with who I help are quite dark and unforgiving, if I feel that someone is slowing us down, no matter how much, and no matter who I will most likely leave them for the horde, to slow them, or if not in immediate danger, kill them myself, after all, they could kill me.

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Re: what is YOUR zombie plan?!
« Reply #37 on: August 10, 2011, 10:36:16 PM »
well i agree, i have played paint ball before and i have shot and ran befor and have gotten hits. yeah i know its not the same as shotting a real gun but the training you get with paint ball can be transferred cant it ?
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Re: what is YOUR zombie plan?!
« Reply #38 on: August 10, 2011, 11:00:10 PM »
paint balls are balls, so are BBs, they do not represent real bullets which are aerodynamic and stuff

but if u can use the sights/scopes really well and even reload really well, then it would work.



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Re: what is YOUR zombie plan?!
« Reply #39 on: August 10, 2011, 11:05:53 PM »
yes but iam talking about the skill, the army some times uses paint ball as training .
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Re: what is YOUR zombie plan?!
« Reply #40 on: August 10, 2011, 11:18:04 PM »
I would expect airsoft, at least the more realistic ones, would be a better experience with weaponry, and i would think the skills would be more transferable, as the airsoft guns are basicly replicas of the real thing.

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Re: what is YOUR zombie plan?!
« Reply #41 on: August 10, 2011, 11:21:10 PM »
yeah the pant ball gun i have is a smie auto with a 14 inch barail. if i can find a gun like that i should do well with it
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Re: what is YOUR zombie plan?!
« Reply #42 on: August 11, 2011, 02:55:28 AM »
The training really is not the same. there is no substitute for combat, all they can hope to do is train, train, train, until it is all drilled into your head so well that it becomes second nature, and this takes a lot of time and money. besides, there is no training for zombies, so you can train, train train all you want, but you will never be prepared for an enemy that feels no pain, and does not go down unless it is a shot to the head. besides, millitary, law enforcement, and civilians who seek it, are trained to shoot center mass, not for the head. it is to small and to hard a target to for all but the best shooters.

not to mention the ballistics between a paint ball gun and a real rifle are completely different. hell, they way the behave are completely different. ill tell you now, shooting a paintball gun is really nothing like a rifle.
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Re: what is YOUR zombie plan?!
« Reply #43 on: August 11, 2011, 04:23:23 AM »
In the event of one, two, or three, I reckon I'm fine where I'm at, being in a rural area and all
Any zombie that did manage to make it out here would be in truly sorry shape by then

And since this place is pretty much a farm, food needs are pretty much taken care of
Got ponds for water
Ingenuity and tools for any other needs

And of course, an assortment of firearms, blades, and ammunition, and the training and balls to use 'em

No plan, really, just wait it out
After a while, you've got starving zeds, sun baked or frozen zeds, zeds accumulating more and more damage due to their own bumbling zombie ways

And that's just assuming there wouldn't be military intervention

With military intervention, it would all be over in a manner of days, there's an awful lot of men and materiel just laying about Stateside waiting to be useful, Marines, Army, Navy, Air Force, National Guard
And the police forces, they're practically a miniature military force these days

Of course, if just coolin' my heels on the farm and waiting for the military to sort it out isn't an option, just head for the coast collecting supplies on the way and commandeer myself a sailboat, cruise along coastal settlements and occasionally put in to shore for resupply

And if, for some reason, that isn't an option, disappear into the harshest wilds I can find, nature provides

Most of my plans all just boil down to keeping in constant motion, none of that safehouse nonsense, that's the surest way to die

The training really is not the same. there is no substitute for combat, all they can hope to do is train, train, train, until it is all drilled into your head so well that it becomes second nature, and this takes a lot of time and money. besides, there is no training for zombies, so you can train, train train all you want, but you will never be prepared for an enemy that feels no pain, and does not go down unless it is a shot to the head. besides, millitary, law enforcement, and civilians who seek it, are trained to shoot center mass, not for the head. it is to small and to hard a target to for all but the best shooters.

not to mention the ballistics between a paint ball gun and a real rifle are completely different. hell, they way the behave are completely different. ill tell you now, shooting a paintball gun is really nothing like a rifle.

What, exactly, is supposed to be difficult about killing a zombie?
I dunno about you, but I'm okay with an enemy that feels no pain, has no emotions, and is hellbent on killing me, makes things an awful lot simpler
No emotional conflict, no wondering if I was right in killing them, no wondering what I've done to their family, none of that, just "That was a zombie, now it is dead"

Won't go down unless it's a head shot?
5.56x45 is an interesting round, rather than simply making a large hole and damaging whatever happens to be behind that hole, it leaves a tiny entry wound, breaks apart as it passes through the flesh, tears up whatever happens to be in the way of each fragment as it passes through, and can leave an exit wound you wouldn't believe if you saw it with your own eyes
The 7.62 family is a family of brutal murderers all, it shatters bones, tears flesh in its wake, and oh so much more, depending on if you're firing normal lead, jacketed slugs, hollow points, etc.
And don't even get me started on the mass of pistols and pistol calibers there are to be had, and the wonders that they hold

You shouldn't have to worry about killing each and every single zombie, just taking them out of the fight, thinning their numbers enough to make an escape easier

The only time firearms would be relatively ineffective and a head shot is your only chance is with rotting flesh risen-from-the-grave style zombies, but L4D style, infected style, still very much human in the physical sense, are S.O.L

Maybe I've just spent too much time on the range, but the average distance you're going to be shooting zombies at is between 20 and 65 yards, and that's not very far at all
The head is rather a large target, all things considered, hardly a target for all but the best shooters, anyone who knows just the basic fundamentals of marksmanship could do it, it's not nearly as hard as you think

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Re: what is YOUR zombie plan?!
« Reply #44 on: August 11, 2011, 10:01:07 AM »
It's harder for us Brits as it's very, very difficult to legally acquire any kind of firearm!

I have actually had a plan for a while though.

Step 1: Gather what supplies I can from home - canned/preserved foods, bottled water, wind up torches, weapons such as golf clubs etc
Step 2: Make a stop down the road - someone I work for legally has 2 magnums and a hunting shotgun. The magnums are completely illegal in England but
he is allowed them because of the nature of his work (emergency veterinary).
Step 3: This one I have known for a while - go to my local Squash Club! All the windows have reinforced glass with metal bars over them, and the door is a good 3-4
inches of sheet steel. This is because so many *cough* "youths"  try to get in and destroy everything. Inside there's snacks, phones, and running water.

Of course, step 3 would not last very long, but it's a temporary place to stay.
Other than that my Dad could fly us out of the country - he works at an airfield.

 

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