Hey :3

[Kio]

Hi guys! My name's Kio (Kio Rou).

I'm new to this site and pretty much to furry in general, although I've liked/lurked/heard about it for quite a while online.
I like listening to music and studying/producing it (electronic mostly, I've just started out, though), and I am starting to learn how to draw (motivated by furry/creature/epic art, mostly but learning to sketch and basic stuff first - wish I found this sooner because I'm really enjoying learning) and I am also studying programming a little bit


I'm still not settled on my fursona because I don't want to accidentally be too much like someone else's original character and I can't really draw properly yet, but I know it will be somewhere along/between the lines of wolf and dog.
My name Kio comes from some older sort of aliases I've associated with, I don't mind it being pronounced Kee-Oh or Ky-Oh ^^ Rou means several things, oddly enough it seems to also refer to wolf in Japanese.


I am from the UK and I'm 18 (although I've always felt kind of ageless), I live with my parents and study from home (rarely go out, actually, lately) have never attended a furry convention (I'm kind of shy irl). I have altocelarophobia, aquaphobia and arachnophobia (the three As, besides anxiety/depression, batophobia/acrophobia/agoraphobia/uranophobia which sort of intermingles with the first) so that affects my life a bit.
What draws me to furry is mostly the art and the characters in it. I like animals/nature in general and also animal characters with anthropomorphic personality (i.e. talking, sometimes regarded as feral I heard) and/or appearance (I heard this is called anthro), also I've always find cartoon/funny animals very appealing, tbh I kind of see all of that under the "furry" scope.


My favorite species of animal (although, I find all interesting, really) are wolves, dogs, foxes and other canids, as well as big/wild cats such as tigers, lions, lynxes, etc.
I like fantasy(?) creatures such as dragons, pokemon/digimon/etc, griffin, kitsune, etc, you get the idea...


I suppose I'm also sort of otherkin/therian, except it's more along the lines of remembering past lives (distorted memories) and those are several, like one life I was an arctic wolf (that might sound cliche but I honestly did not know how popular wolves were, I see media often depicts them negatively) and I seem to only being canid(-ish), I'm not sure if I want to use a "theriotype" as a fursona, though. To add, my personality is apparently INFP http://www.mypersonality.info/personality-types/infp/ I think I've always been like this, even across lifetimes.
Sometimes I'm serious, sometimes I'm playful and sometimes I delve into mystical things, also my mom (in this life) is a witch, not sure if they're wiccan, though but she doesn't know about the fact I'm otherkin/therian or furry. Also, I feel more feral and other times more "anthro" but I never feel entirely human.


Welp, I think that's pretty much it, although I kind of like to type so I probably could write enter libraries about me and what I have left of my past life memories (may be I should take up story-writing/RP? x3)
However, nice meeting you all and thanks for reading my introduction *wags his tail and offers a paw*


Btw, for all those celebrating, especially, happy Chinese new year!

[Ventus Fall]

Welcome to the forum and fandom Kio Rou
I'm Ventus Fall.


I have a couple of fursonas, though Ventus is a dragon ^^
If you would like to know about my other 'sonas, I will glady tell you (:

Also, nice introduction post, very informative.

If you need help understanding Therian/Otherkin I can try and help you. I myself consider me as otherkin.
(If you also need help understanding the difference between witches and wicca's, I can help you a bit with that as well if you want)


As for 'stealing' someone else's fursona, that would be very hard. Each fursona, like a person, has their own personalities/looks, etc. Small different physical and mental appearances make each and everyone unique in one way or another ^^
If you start designing your character, I would like to see it ;D

[Timmy Fox]

Welcome to the forum Kio!
I'm Timmy, the one and only Royal Cutefox. I hope you'll enjoy your time here

[NovaAurora]

Welcome to the forums, Kio!    My name's nova, it's very nice to meet you *shakes your paw.* You seem like quite an interesting person based on that excellent intro, so I hope to be seeing you around!    Also, if you have any questions about anything, feel free to PM me 

[Kio]

Welcome to the forum and fandom Kio Rou
I'm Ventus Fall.


I have a couple of fursonas, though Ventus is a dragon ^^
If you would like to know about my other 'sonas, I will glady tell you (:

Also, nice introduction post, very informative.

If you need help understanding Therian/Otherkin I can try and help you. I myself consider me as otherkin.
(If you also need help understanding the difference between witches and wicca's, I can help you a bit with that as well if you want)


As for 'stealing' someone else's fursona, that would be very hard. Each fursona, like a person, has their own personalities/looks, etc. Small different physical and mental appearances make each and everyone unique in one way or another ^^
If you start designing your character, I would like to see it ;D

Hi Ventus
Nice to meet a dragon, and sure what's your other sonas?


And thanks, I don't very often introduce myself.


Also, interesting, so you call yourself an otherkin, can I ask exactly the difference between otherkin and therian? I'm not entirely sure. And you know the difference between witches and wiccans? I can't really tell.


And I see, just don't want them to be too similar, I heard like manga fans can sometimes get upset if you have a character a certain amount similar to there's, even if it represents them closely (manga is of course, mostly human, though). Just figured it might be the same for furries


Before I am at least 10% sure on my fursona(s), I think I want to see if I can get an art style, that might take some time, though, so I might make my fursona before that ^^

Welcome to the forum Kio!
I'm Timmy, the one and only Royal Cutefox. I hope you'll enjoy your time here

Hello Timmy ^^
Thanks for your welcome.

Welcome to the forums, Kio!     My name's nova, it's very nice to meet you *shakes your paw.* You seem like quite an interesting person based on that excellent intro, so I hope to be seeing you around!     Also, if you have any questions about anything, feel free to PM me 

Hey thanks for the welcome, Nova *shakes*
I hope to see you around, too and ok thanks if I have any questions I will PM you

[Ventus Fall]

First about Wicca's and Witches, I hope this will provide the information you need: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110615174039AAh3mVy
I also have a book somewhere about mythology and such, I think i also mentions Wicca, so I'll look that up too if I can find it and let you know if it says anything elsel


My other fursonas include: squirrel, Bundranygon (bunny/dragon hybrid), another dragon and a panda (which I'm still developping further).




The main difference between Otherkin and Therian, is that Therians relate themselves (or think of themselves as) animals, such as canines, felines, etc.
Otherkin are like Therian, except they focus on mythological beings, such as dragons, elves, etc.




I understand that if you like 'copy' a fursona/character exactly, then it would probably upset that person, but say for example you say you're a Timber wolf. Nothing attached, normal eye colouring, etc. Then chances are indeed there are a couple of others with the same description. But it wouldn't be stealing. You see what I mean? ^^

[Kio]

First about Wicca's and Witches, I hope this will provide the information you need: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110615174039AAh3mVy
I also have a book somewhere about mythology and such, I think i also mentions Wicca, so I'll look that up too if I can find it and let you know if it says anything elsel


My other fursonas include: squirrel, Bundranygon (bunny/dragon hybrid), another dragon and a panda (which I'm still developping further).




The main difference between Otherkin and Therian, is that Therians relate themselves (or think of themselves as) animals, such as canines, felines, etc.
Otherkin are like Therian, except they focus on mythological beings, such as dragons, elves, etc.




I understand that if you like 'copy' a fursona/character exactly, then it would probably upset that person, but say for example you say you're a Timber wolf. Nothing attached, normal eye colouring, etc. Then chances are indeed there are a couple of others with the same description. But it wouldn't be stealing. You see what I mean? ^^

I think my mom speaks of angels, and sees icons of gods/goddesses but not sure if she calls upon them, idk may be she's just selective


That's an interesting range of fursonas, "Bundranygon" sounds particularly interesting, never heard of a cross between a bunny and a dragon before


And I see, I suppose I'm therian, then, but when I google I find "therianthropy" which is sort of like a human believing they are / actually turning into another species? Like in the werewolf movies, right? Or I guess therian is more of an umbrella term, or does it just take off from the scientific term "theria" for mammals? What do reptiles and birds fit into? I guess the terminology is just loose?


I get what you mean, like I said in one of my "past lives" I was an arctic wolf, I was white furred, I see a few white wolves, and not to mention wolves in art that haven't been colored in x3

[Ventus Fall]

Well, Therianthropy is more shapeshifting (can be a part of Therian), like Lyncathrophy is shifting from man to werewolf. But yuo also have a Lycan, which is a werewolf.
 This board might help some more: http://www.thefurryforum.com/forums/index.php?board=84.0


I've drawn most of my fursonas and have them on my dA, if you're interested ^^
Not all of them... but soon...




As for your dreams/visions, can also be seen as a part of being a Therian

[Kio]

Just looked at your page, I don't really use dA although I look at art on it, but I watched you on a new acc I made a few weeks ago (I haven't uploaded anything).
I see you're pretty good, do you sketch and then paint on the computer or draw on the computer? I have a Galaxy Note 10.1 which was an early xmas present, not entirely like a graphics tablet but I think it could very well work like one, I suppose, but I find it harder to do lines on that, the screen is pretty slippery 


So I'm a therian then? I don't like labels too much, but it's interesting that there may be others like me I mean, I know you're otherkin, would you then say therian is a type of otherkin, then?

[Kid Blaze]

*offers a paw in greeting* Hello. The name's Kid. Wow Kio and Kid.  Our names are alike. See ya around I hope!

[Kio]

*offers a paw in greeting* Hello. The name's Kid. Wow Kio and Kid.  Our names are alike. See ya around I hope!

Nice to meet you, Kid 
Yes 'Kid; Kio', you are right, they do much pretty much a like, seems your name has an extra line in there.
See you around, Kid

[Ventus Fall]

Just looked at your page, I don't really use dA although I look at art on it, but I watched you on a new acc I made a few weeks ago (I haven't uploaded anything).
I see you're pretty good, do you sketch and then paint on the computer or draw on the computer? I have a Galaxy Note 10.1 which was an early xmas present, not entirely like a graphics tablet but I think it could very well work like one, I suppose, but I find it harder to do lines on that, the screen is pretty slippery 


So I'm a therian then? I don't like labels too much, but it's interesting that there may be others like me I mean, I know you're otherkin, would you then say therian is a type of otherkin, then?

For now I sketch them on paper and then line-art it with a marker or pen. Scan it in and do the rest with a mouse.
However, since recently I've aquired a true magnificent drawing tablet Now practicing drawing digitally.




If you think yourself as a Therian, then you are one ^^
Otherkin is like Therian (and the other way around), except the one believes themselves to be an animal, while the other in a mythical creature

[Kio]

Just looked at your page, I don't really use dA although I look at art on it, but I watched you on a new acc I made a few weeks ago (I haven't uploaded anything).
I see you're pretty good, do you sketch and then paint on the computer or draw on the computer? I have a Galaxy Note 10.1 which was an early xmas present, not entirely like a graphics tablet but I think it could very well work like one, I suppose, but I find it harder to do lines on that, the screen is pretty slippery   


So I'm a therian then? I don't like labels too much, but it's interesting that there may be others like me   I mean, I know you're otherkin, would you then say therian is a type of otherkin, then?

For now I sketch them on paper and then line-art it with a marker or pen. Scan it in and do the rest with a mouse.
However, since recently I've aquired a true magnificent drawing tablet   Now practicing drawing digitally.




If you think yourself as a Therian, then you are one ^^
Otherkin is like Therian (and the other way around), except the one believes themselves to be an animal, while the other in a mythical creature

Doing it by mouse sounds fun, if not near impossible, well if I tried it, anyway, I bet it's even harder actually sketching by mouse, I'd reckon you'd need to hit the undo button every few or so seconds to keep it clean. What drawing tablet do you use? Also, most be delicate to use a marker over your lines... Do you use like the what do you call it "line tool" in a program like Photoshop? I tried playing with that once and the point (vector?) would shoot to the other side and mess things up, then I'd fail connecting the shape together, that can't be easy... 


Also, thanks for the info.
I think I get it now. So otherkin are more the mythical/legendary type, therian are animals. I think I might be kind of both, as my past lives were diverse, so I several lives, like one life, it definitely didn't seem to be Earth, hard to recall the visual memory it's fragmented but sort of canid but not like on the Earth? Very hard to explain. It's like I used to know colors that I can't make out now, it's pretty weird and I get weird visual patterns trying to think of it but I had a MRI brain scan and apparently it's not physical and I've had no real psychological trauma... Do you, or do you know any other therian/otherkin like this? Also do you think you are a reincarnation like you remember a previous life or just are? It's like every life I have adds to me, which makes me think... Do we just die to lose our memories so we don't get bored of life or something as we experience it? Like some say, too much knowledge can make you unhappy because it can disturb your innocence, right? I feel like I've loved in a past life, and want to hold on, like a faint memory I could explain more but it hurts a little to think. I know it sounds odd, may be, I'm not delusional because I can distinguish my internal, external and alternate lives (as I describe them), but I do experience this. I even had psychologists because of some anxieties I've had in the past two years, they did not observe anything psychotic in my behavior, although my more recent arrangements are kind of that way - my parents have been getting up later and later so they can reset back to normal "get up" times and I have to accommodate that, right now I'm getting up at 5pm, lunch at 9pm, dinner at 1am and bed at 6am (getting later), sleeping by about 10am (don't really have insomnia, though, just the internet takes me in) . I feel kind of nocturnal at the mo. I'm not crazy, though, honest  . But any way, I suppose in a way I am therian and otherkin.

[Ventus Fall]

I have met some other therian, most of them on these forums ^^
If you look around (especialy on the Therian-Otherkin board) and ask nicely, I bet you'll find other Therian and Otherkin


As for helping you: Of course, I like helping others ^^ If you have any more questions or just want to talk, you may always PM me




Ah, I meant I sketch them with pencil and paper, and draw with a marker/pen on the paper to get the lines nice and clear on paper. After that I scan it and edit the drawing in photoshop (colouring/shading/etc).
The darker lines of the marker/pen help me a lot choosing certain sections quicker.

[Kio]

I have met some other therian, most of them on these forums ^^
If you look around (especialy on the Therian-Otherkin board) and ask nicely, I bet you'll find other Therian and Otherkin


As for helping you: Of course, I like helping others ^^ If you have any more questions or just want to talk, you may always PM me




Ah, I meant I sketch them with pencil and paper, and draw with a marker/pen on the paper to get the lines nice and clear on paper. After that I scan it and edit the drawing in photoshop (colouring/shading/etc).
The darker lines of the marker/pen help me a lot choosing certain sections quicker.

I'll read some threads when I have the chance, doesn't seem too active but then, it's not really something you talk about a lot directly, or should I say I don't
Just wondered on what I'd refer to, don't want to say yes to a wrong label in case I get bashed with unnecessary stereotypes or what not that I can't find an association with.


I thought you meant that you did that, just didn't know if you were starting to use the tablet to draw now, as well. I meant with the marker it's easy to ruin the whole sketch, right, like if you slip, but I suppose it's good for highlighting your best lines. I don't know enough about art to judge, really, though. I try tutorials for art, myself (on the internet, though I would like to try art classes/courses, may be), I find them helpful, but by the time I try to do it I look back and realize it's not so good even when I try to get it line perfect (it kind of reminds me of tweaking frequencies in an advanced EQ in like DAW software, i.e. music, as mentioned I am also learning to produce music), then I get too tired from a lesson I find it hard to employ in it but I am new to that so I hope to pick up and make my own art style. I see a style already in your art, would like to see how it evolves.
And thanks for helping / offering to help me


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