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Re: Everyone versus everyone! (Current Record: 187)
« Reply #8115 on: January 10, 2017, 03:12:34 PM »
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Yay, my philosophy lectures taught me something! :P
And pff, I want you to board the next train somehow! .-.
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Re: Everyone versus everyone! (Current Record: 187)
« Reply #8116 on: January 10, 2017, 03:15:30 PM »
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that would require a third person

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Re: Everyone versus everyone! (Current Record: 187)
« Reply #8117 on: January 10, 2017, 03:22:52 PM »
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True, and we can't rely on Razot here ^^;
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Re: Everyone versus everyone! (Current Record: 187)
« Reply #8118 on: January 10, 2017, 03:25:17 PM »
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correct.
So, what do you think of Kant?

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Re: Everyone versus everyone! (Current Record: 187)
« Reply #8119 on: January 10, 2017, 03:28:41 PM »
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Kant? As in an edge, or another philoshoper? x3
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Re: Everyone versus everyone! (Current Record: 187)
« Reply #8120 on: January 10, 2017, 03:29:13 PM »
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the philosopher  :P

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Re: Everyone versus everyone! (Current Record: 187)
« Reply #8121 on: January 10, 2017, 03:31:59 PM »
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The odd thing is, we never got to study him in the lectures I had, but... from what I have read about him, I find him interesting.
Any you are most interested in?
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Re: Everyone versus everyone! (Current Record: 187)
« Reply #8122 on: January 10, 2017, 03:33:34 PM »
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Max Stirner and his philosophy of voluntarily Egoïsm

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Re: Everyone versus everyone! (Current Record: 187)
« Reply #8123 on: January 10, 2017, 03:34:36 PM »
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Now that's a name I haven't heard of before, but perhaps his ideas I might have. Care to tell more? :)
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Re: Everyone versus everyone! (Current Record: 187)
« Reply #8124 on: January 10, 2017, 03:38:35 PM »
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In a short recap: he says that everyone whill thrive if we all go for our own good.
This means that everyone should be an egoïst and selfish and fight for himself.
He shouldn't feel bonded to moral laws or social norms to get what he wants.

His idea is that when you have a group of 10 people with 1 boss, those 10 people will work to make the boss better. But if you have a group of 10 people with just clear communication they will all work for themselves to get the best possible results for themselves thus it will be better for all 10.

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Re: Everyone versus everyone! (Current Record: 187)
« Reply #8125 on: January 10, 2017, 03:54:26 PM »
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Why thank you! :D

Hmm, well that is very interesting...
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Re: Everyone versus everyone! (Current Record: 187)
« Reply #8126 on: January 10, 2017, 04:05:51 PM »
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It really is because the system will in the end self-regulate itself

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Re: Everyone versus everyone! (Current Record: 187)
« Reply #8127 on: January 10, 2017, 04:18:46 PM »
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Well, that is indeed the philosophy.
But it could lead also to the other way around, where there is no order and people will not survive. Or communication will work out, but there will still need to be some form of leadership. Maybe a group of 10 is do-able, although experience with working in teams show that sometimes people are too stubborn to work together, and everything thinks what they're doing is best, sometimes leading to the demise of the group, individuals, or people/humanity in general. What I'm saying: Sometimes even when life depends on it, people can refuse to work or even communicate together. Even if the only other person left is the one you might hate.
However, a group of 10 people who have similar interests, who probably like each other from the start, might be different. Eh *shrugs* Hard to think now.
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Re: Everyone versus everyone! (Current Record: 187)
« Reply #8128 on: January 10, 2017, 04:20:43 PM »
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Well if the groups is not bound to moral laws they can just simply get rid of the factor that holds them back

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Re: Everyone versus everyone! (Current Record: 187)
« Reply #8129 on: January 10, 2017, 04:24:50 PM »
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But if people are born with a sense of morale and judgement, it would be near impossible?
In fact, shouldn't it be morale to strive them to communicate together? Otherwise there wouldn't be communication if there is no moral motivation to do so?

And look at that, we're getting pretty high!
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