Myers-Briggs Type Indicator

[Grey]

ISFP apparently. That's interesting.

[Kozy]

Trolls and MBTI advisors on YouTube seem convinced most furries are INFP or INTJ. INFP are highly individualistic and enjoy a sense of identity (tend to be enneagram 4s) and INTJs tend to be among the most into eccentric due to counterculture attraction (particularly into strategy in roleplay) and may be mistaken as autistic (because of obsessive Ni traits and Fi values pertaining to this). So it actually seems substantial.

aperson1: that chart isn't very accurate in MBTI theory as it doesn't take in the P/J i/e, for example INFJ according to that would be a T type by that (as Fe-Ti forward diagonal is equal to T) which is why INFJs love science and treating people scientifically (like counsellors).

MBTI isn't meant to be read by the 4 letters directly. I/E tell you the first function will be the introverted / extroverted function (shown by the last letter), J tells you F/T is the extroverted function and P tells you the N/S function is the extroverted function. The opposite function is introverted. For example, ENFJ becomes ENFe, ENiFe, then Fe Ni. Then the i/e opposition of Fe is Ti and Ni is Se and the first function is the extroverted one so thus ENFJ becomes "Fe Ni Se Ti".

Has anyone done an enneagram test or assessment, by the way?
I tend to score high as a 1.

[Trixsie Vixen]

I've done the enneagram before but don't recall what I got.  I did a short version just then, though forced choice statements rely on a larger inventory to tease out distinctions.  Even so for fun I scored a tie between Type 2 (The Helper) and Type 7 (the Enthusiast).


On of the things I do like about the MBTI is that is offers four continua as the source of the matrix for its 16 types.  I just happen to believe they are not the best choice of continua and the the poles are probably false dichotomies.


I would want to see the factors tied to biological function to determine this.  Eg, happiness and unhappiness measure two separate things rather than being the extremes of one continuous thing even though it easily can be thought of as a continuum.  But starting with a theoretical model derived from factorial analysis which is then tentatively tied to biological origins is fraught with post-hoc problems.


There is good reason to think there are more than 4 factors.  The OCEAN model uses 5.  I think the  HEXACO model with 6 factors is pretty neat, it creates types modified by the adjacent types much like enneagram's wings.  Though it in practice makes for 6 primary types and 6 on in-between types.


All these models suffer from conflating cognitions, emotions and behaviours IMHO.  If how I feel about things is measured then I am introverted.  How I think is a combination of education and the ideas I have built up to justify my emotional perception.  What I do is a product of learning theory and cultural contingency.  Exposure to drama, music, art and performance generally has taught me/let me learn behaviours which score for extroversion, but my feelings remain those of an introvert.  Because I feel confident speaking before I know what I am going to say I am scored as an extrovert, but that does not account for me having learned to improvise and be thinking about what I will say next WHILE speaking.


Hmmmm....  tricky stuff.   

[Kozy]

http://9types.com/ should help, just see the thought processes

I get 1w2-4w5-7w6 and PerC forums reckon it, too.

I hear there is no science behind MBTI but Enneagram and Big Five do as they hold all possible major traits by the amount measured.

Most people, in life experience, are prone to denying their natural abilities and even get good at what they weren't naturally inclined to (talents). I think personality is best measured in what you think rather than things that are prone to change. I noticed people type you as Si dominant if you're health-focused and Se if your active a lot, but research shows those who are actually physically better, without phobias and in the right environment will occupy these traits. Even if the MBTI was right, the mind is often too complex to analysise on such a low level. MBTI is also based on outdated left-right brain psychology somewhat. There's also no evidence the brain sees the external world different to the inner one, besides in terms of psycho-physical effort (thus introverts simply have more social fatigue or avoidance and self-interest induced preferences).

Preference vs habit vs ability is MBTI's biggest sorting fault. MBTI, however, in its primitive form, can capture your current mindset or how you wish you were.

[NautilusWolf]

INFJ. less than 1% is INFJ? Wow...





Apparently I'm the protector.
Yeah, that's me.

[Tim Siguire]

Im an INTJ, I say INJay because the T is silent to me lol.

http://www.16personalities.com/intj-personality
INTJs are imaginative yet decisive, ambitious yet private, amazingly curious, but only if their interest is piqued.
This isn’t to be misunderstood as impulsiveness – INTJs will strive to remain rational no matter how attractive the end goal may be, and every idea, whether generated internally or soaked in from the outside world, must pass the ruthless and ever-present “Is this going to work?” filter.
White lies and small talk are hard enough as it is for a type that craves truth and depth, but INTJs will go so far as to see many social conventions as downright stupid. Ironically, it is often best for them to remain where they are comfortable – out of the spotlight – where the natural confidence prevalent in INTJs as they work with the familiar can serve as its own beacon, attracting people, romantically or otherwise, of similar temperament and interests.

High self-confidence. INTJ personalities rarely doubt themselves or care much about their perceived social roles, expectations, etc. Consequently, they are not afraid to voice their own opinions. This exudes confidence and reinforces the INTJ’s self-esteem even further.
Hard-working and determined. INTJ personalities can be very patient and dedicated if something excites or intrigues them. They will work hard to achieve their goals, often ignoring everything else. That being said, INTJs may also appear lazy in situations that do not require them to flex their mental muscles. For instance, they may take risks and not study that hard at school, knowing that in all likelihood, they will be able to tackle the tests anyway.

Imaginative and strategic. INTJs are very good strategic thinkers, often using this strength to devise multiple contingency plans in both professional and personal situations. They like to plan ahead and be prepared, imagining all the potential scenarios and consequences.
Honest and direct. People with this personality type hate playing social games and putting comfort or social expectations above honesty and facts. INTJs tend to see these activities as pointless and irrational, preferring inconvenient truth over a comforting lie.

Open-minded. INTJ personalities do not mind being proven wrong and enjoy being exposed to something they were not familiar with. They will embrace a competing theory if it makes more sense, regardless of the existing traditions or expectations. Not surprisingly, INTJs also tend to be fairly liberal in a social sense, believing that many social norms are outdated and unnecessarily restrictive.
Often clueless when it comes to romantic relationships. Many INTJs are likely to have difficulties dealing with anything that does not require logical reasoning, and this weakness is especially visible in interpersonal relationships. They may overanalyze everything, get frustrated trying to understand how the other person thinks, try to use a nearly scientific approach to dating, or just give up altogether.

[Kozy]

1w2 corresponds to INFJ in a Ni Ti loop and Fe reflex in the wing so I would be a INFJ, a broken INFJ for now though, susceptible to repetitive/reflective self-doubt (not in the sense of finding individuality but rather reassurance and being understood is a need) and feeling unhelped despite a desire to help others. My heart type is romantic and reflects itself to create a inner individualism to seek true love that just clicks with that. Realistically that would be someone who is a bit more "with it" than me and is in good understanding of how things work in the practical realm (Se Ti). My gut type (spontaneous attraction) is ENFP as it is an opposite click and corresponds to my inner compliment but the issue can be a lack of groundedness when I act this role or rely on someone with it.
This basically means I'm confused, misunderstood foxy who needs a hug and assurance and friends that he can merge with and trust. I have a hard time expressing my logical mind so I have to express it in written form especially in depth to try to rationalise my own intuition and share so anyone like me or not can understand, Though, the internet is both kind of live and not at the same time so I can type in quite some depth which is nice

So for conversation I will vote INFJ.

[Trixsie Vixen]

*hugs Kozy*

[Kozy]

*hugs Trixsie* I kind of wish I was a P type in that case, though. Being driven by your aux, tert and inferior function can be exhausting.

[Tim Siguire]

reading your personality generalisation makes me want to hug you.... I don't know why honestly.
so i'll do it anyways Kozy *hugs you*

[aperson1]

lots of INFJs here.

[Kozy]

*hugs Tim*
I haven't voted until now, I never feel like I can read myself 100%
I'm sure of my enneagram, however, and that I use Ni Fe Ti Se a lot but I have no idea on my natural preferences or if natural preferences are a real thing and not just hypothetical. In the end of the day, we're all individuals and our individuality can defy our preferences. If anything, really here we should be identify as ourselves but that ourselves are furry. Because of all the labels in the world, there's not many labels more fluffy and warm than "furry". My advice is: be you, be fun, and be kind

[anoni]

I'm always skeptical about these things, fun that they are, do they really tell what your personality is? I'll give you a few reasons why this could be inaccurate.

1. Expectational values
  Basically, if you consider yourself of some personality, you'll answer questions that correlate with what you'd believe that personality would do. It becomes irrelevant on what your actual actions indicate, but instead you answer what you THINK your actions indicate, and so the personality you get is more the personality you THINK you have rather than the personality you actually have.

2. The Forer Effect
  The descriptions of the personalities are vague enough, in my opinion, for the Forer Effect to apply. That is, given a set of general descriptions, you'll tend to wrap these descriptions in your mind to believe that they are describing specifically you and so you'll tend to give a high accuracy rating for them. An example is something that goes "You are decisive", now everybody in the world is neither completely decisive or completely indecisive, but saying "you are decisive" will make you think of all the times you were decisive and make you agree with that statement, even though it could potentially apply to anyone.

[aperson1]

Well I tried to make my decisions completely without an intent, simply wondering 'what am I?' and ended up with ENFJ. And looking at the descriptions of other people's personalities, I know that I don't fit into those even if I try to fit myself in.

[The Magic Otter]

Well I tried to make my decisions completely without an intent, simply wondering 'what am I?' and ended up with ENFJ. And looking at the descriptions of other people's personalities, I know that I don't fit into those even if I try to fit myself in.

I did the same thing and ended up with INTJ