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Re: opinion on bronies/ask your questions to a brony
« Reply #45 on: October 01, 2014, 02:26:07 AM »
 I tend to have a critical opinion of bronies... Which probably isn't a surprise to those who know me. But let me elaborate before someone jumps me.

 I would hope in saying this, people realize that I understand people are different and not all bronies fall under this category (in fact, I know some that I enjoy talking to that don't fall under this at all, and also agree with what I think) and I'm not targeting anyone in particular so much as expressing why I find bronies problematic. I take no issue with people who enjoy the show. I take issue with these problems.

 Honestly, I really don't like that most of the take a show meant for small girls' empowerment and sexualize it to the point that the fan space is not safe for the target audience. They are loud, belligerent, and any time it is acknowledged that they are not part of the target audience, they throw a fit about it.

 If you think my point isn't valid, I encourage you to take a look at the whole incident concerning Stellar Eclipse, a pony OC that was written into the show for a minor via the Make A Wish Foundation, where, bronies were so bothered that they were excluded, they purposefully made porn of the character and when the mother requested that they didn't, they responded by (you guessed it!) making more porn of said character and saying that the teen should be flattered that it happened to begin with!

 There are several other instances of issues like this, and homophobia, racism, and mysogynistic ideals run rampant among bronies. I think it's ridiculous that they take positive role models for children and attach said ideals to them. They invade and claim spaces that are not made for them so that it is no longer safe for who the space is made for... And that's why I take issue with them.

 I have no problem with people liking things outside of their target audience because I believe that gendered marketing is problematic on its own, but to demand special titles (and get them) when on the flip side (I'll use comic books and video games for instance) girls get the whole “fake geek” and “fake gamer girls” title and harassed for doing the same, I think it's no bueno. I think it's a gross double standard that needs to die.
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Re: opinion on bronies/ask your questions to a brony
« Reply #46 on: October 01, 2014, 04:34:10 AM »
Imma agree with Morty over here. In fact I believe most  bronies are only bronies for the attention, or as a "sensitive side" just to get a girlfriend. However, like I said, keep it on the DL and everything's all good, no problems.
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Re: opinion on bronies/ask your questions to a brony
« Reply #47 on: October 01, 2014, 05:45:29 AM »
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Re: opinion on bronies/ask your questions to a brony
« Reply #48 on: October 01, 2014, 05:49:22 AM »
 I tend to have a critical opinion of bronies... Which probably isn't a surprise to those who know me. But let me elaborate before someone jumps me.

 I would hope in saying this, people realize that I understand people are different and not all bronies fall under this category (in fact, I know some that I enjoy talking to that don't fall under this at all, and also agree with what I think) and I'm not targeting anyone in particular so much as expressing why I find bronies problematic. I take no issue with people who enjoy the show. I take issue with these problems.

 Honestly, I really don't like that most of the take a show meant for small girls' empowerment and sexualize it to the point that the fan space is not safe for the target audience. They are loud, belligerent, and any time it is acknowledged that they are not part of the target audience, they throw a fit about it.

 If you think my point isn't valid, I encourage you to take a look at the whole incident concerning Stellar Eclipse, a pony OC that was written into the show for a minor via the Make A Wish Foundation, where, bronies were so bothered that they were excluded, they purposefully made porn of the character and when the mother requested that they didn't, they responded by (you guessed it!) making more porn of said character and saying that the teen should be flattered that it happened to begin with!

 There are several other instances of issues like this, and homophobia, racism, and mysogynistic ideals run rampant among bronies, and I think it's ridiculous that they take positive role models for children and attach said ideals to them. They invade and claim spaces that are not made for them so that it is no longer safe for who the space is made for... And that's why I take issue with them.

 I have no problem with people liking things outside of their target audience because I believe that gendered marketing is problematic on its own, but to demand special titles (and get them) when on the flip side (I'll use comic books and video games for instance) girls get the whole “fake geek” and “fake gamer girls” title and harassed for doing the same, I think it's no bueno. I think it's a gross double standard that needs to die.

I wanted to say this but didn't want to be the one to start it.

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Re: opinion on bronies/ask your questions to a brony
« Reply #49 on: October 09, 2014, 12:15:19 AM »
 I tend to have a critical opinion of bronies... Which probably isn't a surprise to those who know me. But let me elaborate before someone jumps me.

 I would hope in saying this, people realize that I understand people are different and not all bronies fall under this category (in fact, I know some that I enjoy talking to that don't fall under this at all, and also agree with what I think) and I'm not targeting anyone in particular so much as expressing why I find bronies problematic. I take no issue with people who enjoy the show. I take issue with these problems.

 Honestly, I really don't like that most of the take a show meant for small girls' empowerment and sexualize it to the point that the fan space is not safe for the target audience. They are loud, belligerent, and any time it is acknowledged that they are not part of the target audience, they throw a fit about it.

 If you think my point isn't valid, I encourage you to take a look at the whole incident concerning Stellar Eclipse, a pony OC that was written into the show for a minor via the Make A Wish Foundation, where, bronies were so bothered that they were excluded, they purposefully made porn of the character and when the mother requested that they didn't, they responded by (you guessed it!) making more porn of said character and saying that the teen should be flattered that it happened to begin with!

 There are several other instances of issues like this, and homophobia, racism, and mysogynistic ideals run rampant among bronies. I think it's ridiculous that they take positive role models for children and attach said ideals to them. They invade and claim spaces that are not made for them so that it is no longer safe for who the space is made for... And that's why I take issue with them.

 I have no problem with people liking things outside of their target audience because I believe that gendered marketing is problematic on its own, but to demand special titles (and get them) when on the flip side (I'll use comic books and video games for instance) girls get the whole “fake geek” and “fake gamer girls” title and harassed for doing the same, I think it's no bueno. I think it's a gross double standard that needs to die.
I don't really know how to respond to this.
Except that I agree with a good number of points that you made.
Part of me wants to say that only a smaller portion of bronies do the pornz and get loud about it or be a Brony for the attention but they are louder than the regulars. But I'm sure that you already know that.
I feel like it is these reasons you described that I'm not super open about it in public. Like, I know they're is nothing wrong with me, but other people would get a bag idea about me based on what they read on the Internet about bronies or see in public.

I know that there are plenty of bad things that some bronies do that out speak the positive things that other bronies do. Like, I'll do done research and show you some of the good. I know that there are charities run by bronies and a lot of Brony musicians actually donate money they earn from making music to charity as well. Give me time and I'll give you examples.
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Re: opinion on bronies/ask your questions to a brony
« Reply #50 on: October 09, 2014, 10:42:48 AM »
I don't really know how to respond to this.
Except that I agree with a good number of points that you made.
Part of me wants to say that only a smaller portion of bronies do the pornz and get loud about it or be a Brony for the attention but they are louder than the regulars. But I'm sure that you already know that.
I feel like it is these reasons you described that I'm not super open about it in public. Like, I know they're is nothing wrong with me, but other people would get a bag idea about me based on what they read on the Internet about bronies or see in public.

I know that there are plenty of bad things that some bronies do that out speak the positive things that other bronies do. Like, I'll do done research and show you some of the good. I know that there are charities run by bronies and a lot of Brony musicians actually donate money they earn from making music to charity as well. Give me time and I'll give you examples.

 No, I am not accusing everyone who likes MLP to be guilty of these things. I just feel that brony culture has become this exclusive thing that seems almost separate from just “I like My Little Pony,” if that makes sense. Like, you could say “Yeah, I like the show My Little Pony” and I feel like that wouldn't make my face scrunch up like it would if someone was like “Hey I'm a brony.” Liking the show itself is not problematic.

Regarding charity, unfortunately, some bronies hop on doing charitable acts for the wrong reasons. Again, I'm not accusing everyone that enjoys MLP to be guilty of this so much as that brony culture I described above. Some do charitable acts for the purpose of being able to say “But not all bronies” and I feel like that's pretty shitty to do – trying to profit off of other peoples' misfortunes in order to make yourself look better in the same way some white people try to belittle their culture to prove they aren't one of the “bad white people.” It's not very genuine and is problematic in its own right.

If you donate to charity because you want to or feel that it's the right thing to do, that's one thing. But doing it to use as a tool to make yourself look better? Nah. It does exactly the opposite.

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Re: opinion on bronies/ask your questions to a brony
« Reply #51 on: October 10, 2014, 06:46:41 AM »
I don't really know how to respond to this.
Except that I agree with a good number of points that you made.
Part of me wants to say that only a smaller portion of bronies do the pornz and get loud about it or be a Brony for the attention but they are louder than the regulars. But I'm sure that you already know that.
I feel like it is these reasons you described that I'm not super open about it in public. Like, I know they're is nothing wrong with me, but other people would get a bag idea about me based on what they read on the Internet about bronies or see in public.

I know that there are plenty of bad things that some bronies do that out speak the positive things that other bronies do. Like, I'll do done research and show you some of the good. I know that there are charities run by bronies and a lot of Brony musicians actually donate money they earn from making music to charity as well. Give me time and I'll give you examples.

 No, I am not accusing everyone who likes MLP to be guilty of these things. I just feel that brony culture has become this exclusive thing that seems almost separate from just “I like My Little Pony,” if that makes sense. Like, you could say “Yeah, I like the show My Little Pony” and I feel like that wouldn't make my face scrunch up like it would if someone was like “Hey I'm a brony.” Liking the show itself is not problematic.

Regarding charity, unfortunately, some bronies hop on doing charitable acts for the wrong reasons. Again, I'm not accusing everyone that enjoys MLP to be guilty of this so much as that brony culture I described above. Some do charitable acts for the purpose of being able to say “But not all bronies” and I feel like that's pretty shitty to do – trying to profit off of other peoples' misfortunes in order to make yourself look better in the same way some white people try to belittle their culture to prove they aren't one of the “bad white people.” It's not very genuine and is problematic in its own right.

If you donate to charity because you want to or feel that it's the right thing to do, that's one thing. But doing it to use as a tool to make yourself look better? Nah. It does exactly the opposite.

Something I should note is that this type of behavior you're referring to is not exclusive to bronies. Every fandom does the charity thing (even this one), and to be fair the amount of money raised by a fandom that is only 4 years old is impressive; hell I'm just impressed a fandom only 4 years old has reached beyond it's country of origin in such a short time.

Also it should be noted that it is possible to like something while not being a part of that fandom (furries included). As fandom if broken down to it's definition "Fanatic" and "Domain" essentially means "A domain for fanatics," and as stated before it's possible to like something without being a fan.

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Re: opinion on bronies/ask your questions to a brony
« Reply #52 on: October 10, 2014, 07:49:07 AM »

Something I should note is that this type of behavior you're referring to is not exclusive to bronies. Every fandom does the charity thing (even this one), and to be fair the amount of money raised by a fandom that is only 4 years old is impressive; hell I'm just impressed a fandom only 4 years old has reached beyond it's country of origin in such a short time.

Also it should be noted that it is possible to like something while not being a part of that fandom (furries included). As fandom if broken down to it's definition "Fanatic" and "Domain" essentially means "A domain for fanatics," and as stated before it's possible to like something without being a fan.

Oh, I'm well aware of that. This is generally why I don't really enjoy fandoms in general because they can often lead to a toxic environment. I guess I should clarify I would make that scrunchy face at most any fandom, including the furry one I could go on forever about problematic behavior with furries or really most fandoms... Which is why I'm somewhat quiet on that front as well, but I do lurk because there are some nice things occasionally.

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Re: opinion on bronies/ask your questions to a brony
« Reply #53 on: October 11, 2014, 07:35:17 AM »
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« Reply #54 on: October 23, 2014, 12:13:52 AM »
1 question: is anyone a pony on sl?
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