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Offline Cifero Windtail

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Re: Broken Fourth Wall
« Reply #3225 on: May 20, 2015, 06:21:02 AM »
Ardys closed her eyes and looked a bit flustered, pointing at Tim. "Kinda both," she said, covering her eyes with her other hand. "It's not... gone, it just looks a little more clean... and I'm not sure if I want people seeing it. I mean, I'm not.... Well, you said I looked alright. I'm just a little self-conscious about it, is all." Sighing, she rubbed her arm. "...I really have to get over it."
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Re: Broken Fourth Wall
« Reply #3226 on: May 20, 2015, 06:25:45 AM »
"I understand. Well.. could I feel your belly?" *he bravely asked and blushed, trying not to make her too uncomfortable*

((Why is she pointing? ))
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Re: Broken Fourth Wall
« Reply #3227 on: May 20, 2015, 06:28:22 AM »
Shrugging and sighing, Ardys nodded, carefully lying across Tim's lap. "Sure, if you really are curious," she said. "Nothing too... emotional, though. Okay?"
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Re: Broken Fourth Wall
« Reply #3228 on: May 20, 2015, 06:36:05 AM »
"I'll try not to blush." He said Tim placed a paw over her belly and just gently waved his fingers, slowly sliding up to her mid, avoiding her specials.


"Do you... get massages? A-Ardys?"
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Re: Broken Fourth Wall
« Reply #3229 on: May 20, 2015, 06:40:11 AM »
Ardys blushed lightly. "Not... not usually," she asked. "Most of the time, I've tried to avoid contact because of my scar." Yawning a little, the sabretooth looked up at Tim, her stomach surprisingly firm under his paws. "Are you offering?"
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Re: Broken Fourth Wall
« Reply #3230 on: May 20, 2015, 06:46:54 AM »
Tim blushed a bit
"I wasn't.. but-but I would be glad to give you one. I mean i'd let you have one- I mean.. hhh, Yes. I was subtlely offering."
Tim put two paws on her belly, feeling her firm muscles and chub.
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Re: Broken Fourth Wall
« Reply #3231 on: May 20, 2015, 06:53:38 AM »
The sabretooth blushed gently and purred a little, stretching out and letting her shirt ride up. She had a large scar running down the middle of her belly, broken in the center by a crude-looking navel. Ardys blushed a little more as she realized what had happened and murmured something very unladylike in a flustered-yet-gruff-sounding voice.
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Re: Broken Fourth Wall
« Reply #3232 on: May 20, 2015, 07:00:02 AM »
Tim slid a paw around the navel, across the belly and gently touched her arm. "Leoop.. Ardys.. aherhm... you and Daisy have beautiful features. I noticed you all seem to wear a short or small shirt.." Tim loved the way her muscles and chub mixed around.
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Re: Broken Fourth Wall
« Reply #3233 on: May 20, 2015, 07:04:10 AM »
Ardys tensed and blushed darkly, then looked up at Tim. "Er... Her shirt seems to fit her alright," Ardys said, motioning to Daisy. "But yeah, my shirts never tend to... mrr... fit quite right..." The sabretooth widened her eyes and blushed as she saw the previous post. "Uh... um..."
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Re: Broken Fourth Wall
« Reply #3234 on: May 20, 2015, 07:09:46 AM »
"You know.. I really wanted a hug from behind.. so I could-" :$
"N-nevermind.. you have a really nice belly......" Tim thought os something
"You said you like to hide your belly. Does that mean in pure privacy, you don't hide it?"
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Re: Broken Fourth Wall
« Reply #3235 on: May 20, 2015, 07:21:25 AM »
Ardys stared intently at the sky, her face slightly red. "Well... when no one's around, I don't bother fixing my shirt, I guess," she said. "... What did you want to do to me from behind? Also, uh... thanks.[size=78%]"[/size]
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Re: Broken Fourth Wall
« Reply #3236 on: May 20, 2015, 07:27:47 AM »
Tim felt embarrassed and flushed.
 "I didn't want to do anything to you from behind! I did b-but! Like.. I was just saying a hug would be nice.
I-I can't do anything to you-..." Tim stopped rubbing her belly and laid by her. burying his embarrassed face.
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Re: Broken Fourth Wall
« Reply #3237 on: May 20, 2015, 07:35:55 AM »
Ardys smiled and fixed her shirt slightly, then gently hugged Tim. "It's okay," she said, gently stroking his ears.
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Re: Broken Fourth Wall
« Reply #3238 on: May 20, 2015, 07:44:48 AM »
*looks up, relaxed from the petting*


"You're h-hhhh.... hhhhighly attractive. And I like cats... foxes.. all lizard types."
Tim reached over Ardys and gently laid his head against her firm chest.
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Even if it may feel like I'm all alone sometimes, I have to remember I still have one person around who cares: myself.
I'm not about to give up on myself, as I have never lost hope for anyone, so why give up on the person who never has?

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  • Weight: 89 lbs. and then about 50 more (about 139 lbs.); he's fit, but he's not muscular. Has a bit of an outie.
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Re: Broken Fourth Wall
« Reply #3239 on: May 20, 2015, 07:50:26 AM »
Ardys gently hugged Tim close and let him rest his head upon her, purring softly.
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