Unofficially Official TFF Minecraft Server!

[Sodapon8]

as for dirt/grass gravel and sand disappearing most likely endermen

[The Past]

It is corruption because it's also generating non-flowable water in the holes, which is the same issue we had last time.

[anoni]

Hopefully transferring to Forge will fix the issue.

Transferring to forge will take a while, and we MAY (not entirely sure yet) lose PvP control, but considering no one PvP'd anyway, it mightn't be so bad. If the vote is in support I'll transfer to forge on Friday, the server will probably be offline for a while cause I've got to back everything up, transfer the ranks, install all the new mods and so forth, so it's gonna take a little while. The good news for moderators is that with the current mods I'm going to try, you don't have to learn new commands for ranking people, you just use "/p" instead "/pex".

  I'm not sure if clients need to have forge installed in order to play on a server that has forge and I can't find anything on the internet about that. Does anyone know the answer? I have some mods that would, logically, be only server-sided mods, but i want to stray away from client sided mods, at least for the moment.

  Just so people understand what I mean when I say server-sided mods and client-sided mods, I'll briefly explain.

  There are two things that make up a minecraft game. The client (the player, IE: you) and the server (the thing that connects the players together). A server in general has a Mod interface installed, this is something that makes it easier for modders to "plug in" their mods, without worrying about compatibility issues with other mods and without happening to change any significant files. The current mod interface we have is craftbukkit 1.8, the one we may have in the future is Forge. When a mod interface is installed, there are two types of mods that can be installed.

  1. Server-side mods: A server side mod is a mod that runs on the server and doesn't effect the client. This is something like a ranks mod, or a warp mod, or something like that. It's a mod that the client can use even if they themselves don't have the mod. You don't need the same ranking mod in order to play on the server with the ranking mod, the server simply uses the mod and the client doesn't even have to worry about.

  2. Client-sided mods: Not all mods are server-sided mods, some mods change minecraft files or are set up in a way that it's impossible for the client to ignore. This includes a mod that adds new blocks or items into the game, the game needs to be changed to reference these new blocks, the server can't do that without consulting the client so the client needs the mod installed as well. For all client-sided mods both the client AND the server need the mod, with the current way forge is set up, if you do not have the mod you WON'T BE ABLE TO JOIN THE SERVER. This is why I'm a bit hesitant to install client sided mods, cause it means people need to download mods on their client in order to play.

  If we do install any client-sided mods, I'll create a personal modpack and link it on the original post of this thread. That way installing it should be as easy as clicking a button and dragging and dropping.

[Grey]

I have Forge installed on my Minecraft so if it comes down to it, I can test by joining with my Forge profile, and my Latest Version profile.

I appreciate the work, Anoni. Mods can be confusing at times.

[George]

  If we do install any client-sided mods, I'll create a personal modpack and link it on the original post of this thread. That way installing it should be as easy as clicking a button and dragging and dropping.

Hopefully everyone who tries to join understands the intricacies of clicking and dragging.

[anoni]

So I have good news and bad news about the new Forge installation.

The good news is I can confidently switch the server from Forge to Craftbukkit at any time, still retaining all files

The bad news is that the essentials mod that I wanted to use, that would contain all the permissions and so forth, is outdated and does not work for the version of MC that our server runs off. So I'm gonna revert it back to Craftbukkit for now, while I look for a better mod to use

[White Wolf Guardian]

If you JUST use Cauldron... Essentials will work WITH the Forge mods.

[George]

So are we or are we not switching?

[anoni]

If you JUST use Cauldron... Essentials will work WITH the Forge mods.

Same problem, at least from my searching, there isn't a Cauldron version for 1.8 and they won't be releasing one, the team are working on something else called "Sponge", which would, I suppose, work in a similar manner. But I dunno much about it

So are we or are we not switching?

We will once we find some appropriate mods for administrating and stuff

[George]

What's missing? Just needs admin commands or...?

[anoni]

We need...

Admin permissions (kick/ban/warp/stuff like that)
Member groups (Member, Trusted, guest, with world protection so guests can't build anything)
Warp mod
Teleporting mod

[George]

What is CurseForge? It came up while I was looking around.

Reading about Sponge:

Bukkit plugins may run on Sponge without change due to efforts by the community.

The purpose of Sponge is to make an API that doesn’t change much between MC versions. It will be possible to write mods that use both Forge and Sponge.

Our primarily implementation will support Forge mods natively.

Will the New API Be Like the Bukkit API in How It is Used? Events, etc.?

Yes. It should be fairly similar, and still afford you more power because you will have access to Forge.

I dunno if this is what you need, but it sounds like it. I'm not really too familiar with this stuff.

Another thread here on it.

[anoni]

CurseForge is a website to post mods, not a mod itself.

Yes sponge is the thing we need but it isn't developed yet.

[George]

So basically we gotta keep watch on Sponge then?

EDIT: That didn't seem to be it.

[anoni]

There are a few things we could do.

The first thing I'm gonna do is a bit more mod searching, find a 1.8 mod that we can use

The second thing I could do is find a way to make minecraft 1.7.10 while still retaining the world, might not be possible though

There are a few other options