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Hello, I just want to warn you this is going to be very long, but I'm struggling and really need some help and advice. First some background


I am an 18 year old Male, I come from a VERY religious family and was in a bubble from most of the world, "brainwashed" so to speak. My parents got a divorce when I was 11 or so, and my father has made it clear, and told me many times he doesn't love me, or like me. My mother is nice, but she is very judgmental, and again, let me reinforce VERY CHRISTIAN!


When I was 12 I found the furry fandom through some... Let's say art ;3 Probably art I shouldn't have been looking at at that age... And I kept that a secret for years. I began to really like the fandom too, as I always connected more with animals then people anyways.


I have Aspergers, thought I should say this before I get any farther, I don't really know much about social situations, nor am I good with them. I have depression, though I hide it as I NEVER talk about feelings, not really understanding them to well. I've told no one I'm depressed in real life, and prefer to keep it that way.


I was homeschooled for pretty much all of my life, since third grade all the way until now, which I just graduated. I've had 2 friends in my entire life, though one I moved away from during the divorce.


I hate people, people stress me out, I can never understand people or feel comfortable around them. I had dogs growing up though and I felt so much better around them, not even depressed around them, actually happy, just petting them or being with them. Unfortunately, I didn't get to keep my dog when we moved from the divorce, and since then I've just gotten more and more sad.


I don't talk about feelings, nothing at all, I hate discussing that I have aspergers, and that I'm scared of thunder and loud noises, sometimes to the point of tears, I hate talking about anything about me personally. In social situations I'll isolate myself, not talking to anyone (which I'll talk about later) and I somewhat hate myself, not suicidal but wishing I were different.


Fastforward many long years filled with depression and anger until I was 17. By then, I don't know what happened to me, but I have become numb, completely numb from emotions, even the ones I understood with my lack of understand from aspergers about that stuff, I don't feel anymore. Nothing can make me happy, sad, angry. Nothing :/ I just literally go through every day like a zombie, I play video games to try to zone out, and it helps. I sleep until noon and just don't care.


My mother is oblivious, she refuses to help me with my aspergers, saying that it's not really an issue, and the lord will help... I'm personally scared of my mother, since even though I don't know what love feels like personally, I've never felt loved, I feel the closest to her, even though she annoys me so much with her preaching at me. I personally don't know if there is a God or not, but I'd never say that to her.


When I was 17 I found a website called F-list, which is a NSFW website, (Not sure of all the rules on this forum, just a warning) And even though I was not suppose to make an account until I was 18, I did, and I would RP most nights for more then a year.


I turned 18 this year in 2015, and nothing has really changed until I met someone. A little more back story and then I'll continue.


My mother is VERY against gays, trans, ext... Saying how they are evil and disgusting. And I even believed what she said, in fact only last year I began disagreeing with her, though never speaking out about it. I was always sure I was Straight, because it was evil otherwise.


Okay, here's what I need help with, you're pretty much all caught up.


In 2015 in around February or March, I roleplayed with someone on F-list. She was a Cheetah, and I really enjoyed the RP. We played a few more times and then began to chat. I asked questions and they asked questions. And I began to like them, we shared so many interests. But I was scared to ask their gender, because at that point, I KNEW in my head.... or my mother was still whispering in my head, that I was straight. They told me they were Male, and I got upset. We had been chatting about IRL things for a few days, and I really started to like them, but I thought it must be over, I don't like guys...


I kept talking to them though, found out they were gay, but more then that we played games, super smash bros, pokemon... I kept logging on to F-list to talk with them and they asked if I had a skype, it would be easier.


Up to this point, I have had two distinct and separate worlds, the world my mom knows about, and everything else. Without thinking I gave them my skype, for 6 years I've had 2 separate worlds so to speak and this was the beginning of a merge.


We kept talking on there for about a month and a half, playing games and such, and I realized how much in common we had, and began to really like it. And then we began to talk more about personal things, things I'm not going to share on here, and things I've never thought I'd ever be able to say to anyone. Not only did they listen, they accepted, he was so nice and for the first time in my life, I was not lying. I would always lie, and I got really good, I lie to my friend, my family... myself... But I had told everything to this person about me, and I learned about them too.


One day they asked if I wanted to chat on skype... and I got scared. Text is something I'm good with, aspergers wise. I can deal with text and say what I mean, but I have a hard time with talking, and get panicked. I told them this, as they knew I had aspergers, and they told me I could just listen and watch them play this game Dark Souls 2. I watched for about 3 hours, they talked to me and explained everything about how to play and such... I said probably 12 or so words during that time, and eventually was having a panic attack and told them in text I was going to have to go, not able to say it. They told me it was fine and they understand and to have a good sleep...


This was the first time I had ever been treated so nicely. I was actually feeling happy...


A few months later, and about a month ago now, we continued to text chat on skype, talking some more sometimes and such. I have gotten to a point where I can talk to them in conversations over skype without feeling worried. He and I continued talking, and I was getting scared... I was beginning to really, really like them...


I told him about it and he said he liked me too, I was getting scared, and now I am thinking I might be bi curious at this point. We talked more on skype and I asked if I might be able to visit them at some point... He lives across the country, 6 hours away by plane.


We talked about possibly me going down there over new years, and I asked him straight out if he would want to... do anything else...


I am 18 as of this year, and he is 26, I also told him I'm a virgin and we discussed all of that stuff. He told me that if I was wanting to, we could do that... and if I wasn't ready, we could just hang out and play video games. He said I don't need to worry, and I can decide even last minute if I'm ready or not ready to do any of that stuff. He also told me he would teach me about stuff if I wanted, and show me how some things... felt. I was getting happy and worried, I really like him, but I keep hearing my mother in my head, about how it's evil and stuff.


I still live with my mother, but like I have said earlier, one thing I'm good at is lying, and I'm very believable. I spun this tale over the course of a few weeks about meeting this friend, who I had actually made online and is different from the one I met on f-list, one day and since they're going off to college this might be my last chance. I told her that over new years is really the only chance I'll have and I, after much convincing got her to agree if I pay the plane ticket.


I was getting excited, I could go down there and spend new years with my furry friend. But now I'm getting stressed. I'm still so confused about myself, I find girls attractive, and I've always been told this stuff is evil. I know it isn't but I'm scared. I really like this guy, but I feel like I shouldn't, like it's bad of me to do this. And if my mother ever found out, she would kick me out and disown me.


I'm getting really really stressed and confused, I'm panicking and I just don't know. I keep hearing in my head I can't like them because they're a guy and that's evil, my mother is practically screaming in my ears.


I really need some help and advice, I'm SOO sorry at how long this is, but I'm just needing help. Please offer some advice or anything, also I don't need the advice about not meeting up because they are strangers on the internet, I know them, and have talked with them with video on skype for months now, I know of the dangers, and that our age gap is large, but that stuff doesn't worry me at all. He is really nice and caring, and I trust him.


Again, sorry for the length, and if this is needed to be in a different forum then general, can a mod please move it? I didn't know of another place to put it, thanks.

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Re: I need help, I'm scared and confused and battling with myself.
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2015, 12:05:09 PM »
3 things:

Your mums an extremist. she may not be violent, or muslim, but she is still an extremist. there is no point trying to reason with her from what I read here.

The age difference is big... creepily big, this is far more of a warning sign than him being a man.

If you love someone, and they love you, don't let others stupidity stand in your way, there is NOTHING WRONG with being gay. I will repeat that. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING GAY. Anyone who says otherwise is either an idiot, brainwashed, or in Narnia due to how far in the closet they are.
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Re: I need help, I'm scared and confused and battling with myself.
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2015, 04:11:42 PM »
Your mom is an idiot I hate bible thumping hate filled limbaughs youth I have to fight to take the high road and not slap the living crap out of everyone I meet. So to avoid violating forum rules im just gonna say this. Your mom is sick all of them bible bangers are

Yeah age isn't a thing my mate and I are 10 years apart

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Re: I need help, I'm scared and confused and battling with myself.
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2015, 07:55:33 PM »
As you said, you know there's not actually anything wrong with being gay or bi or transgender or anything else.

That being said, I understand that it's not an intellectual issue. Look, man: no one is saying you have to do anything or not. If you decide while down there to mess around, that does not necessarily say anything about you. Perhaps it's a phase, perhaps not, but one thing is certain: you're not going to magical fire land because you love someone.

Besides, God made you like this, right? Who is your mother to question God? ;P

As for the practical side: don't let you mother know; lie your ass off for now, and get away from her as soon as it's convenient. If she doesn't support you emotionally, and would disown you for being a "sinner" then she doesn't deserve to have you in her life. You might be surprised by her reaction if you tell her you're bi (if you turn out to be), but I'd have other arrangements for food and shelter lined up first.

Also: the age difference is a little big, but only because it makes it easier to get manipulated. However, if he really does care for you, then age doesn't matter one bit. Just be careful =) 
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Re: I need help, I'm scared and confused and battling with myself.
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2015, 02:57:58 PM »
Well... Any advice I could give you is on this post ---> http://www.thefurryforum.com/forums/index.php?topic=28001.msg1434297#msg1434297


But, if I have to give the most helpful thing from there, it's talking. My mate does have Aspergers (just to note, it's just plain autism now. If you want to be specific, high-functioning autism, but yeah) and he was just as bad as you are socially. Talking [to me] helped him a lot, and we eventually became mates.


If I have to give a better reason as to why you need to talk to people on a personal level is that, brains and minds and emotions and people are complicated, especially people who have... it pains me to say it, but... mental conditions. Life advice is almost impossible to completely generalise because we are all wired differently, and thus, have different approaches to life. Talking, may not even be the best way to relief you of your stresses, but I just don't know enough about you to give proper advice.


If you'd like to add me on skype, go ahead and click the little skype icon to the left here, or search for "alkasim2000". I'd be more than happy to talk to you. And if you're scared of rejection because you're "weird", I'm not exactly one to talk to about being normal either. Plus, I'd only reject you if you were being mean to me, and by the looks of things, you seem like an alright person, who's just been brought up in unfortunate circumstances.


I wish you best of luck with your future endeavours, and just remember. Your in control of your decisions, and no amount of another person's opinions should influence yours.


(as a side note, I really hate labelling people as abnormal because they have autism or something, but it's neccessary sometimes)
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Re: I need help, I'm scared and confused and battling with myself.
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2015, 10:05:04 AM »
I cant say that I've been in your place but if you really want to meet with him do so since he is gay you might be able to talk with him  about it...who knows he might have been through something similar with the not bwing sure about his sexuality.... And the age thing... While 8 years is a large gap...there are several couple's who have an even larger one and they are completely happy.... With the  experimenting...has already said that it would be your decision...if you want to try some things but not go all the way.. Tell him that and you can discuss things you might wanna try...and it can be embarrassing I know but it also lets him know where you stand.. And if you don't wanna do anything tell him and just talk...and hay you might find a good gaming buddy..or even a good cuddle buddy

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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2015, 09:34:49 PM »
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Re: I need help, I'm scared and confused and battling with myself.
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2015, 09:45:24 PM »
I already said this Via PM... but I will repeat it here for clarification:

There is a common misconception that all extremists are Muslims. That is not true, There are extremists from all religions. that is the point I was making

I do NOT believe all Muslims are extremists, that would make me an idiot.
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Re: I need help, I'm scared and confused and battling with myself.
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2015, 10:24:26 PM »
I think you misunderstand Akyra. Angder is referring to the fact her anti-gay and such views are extremist. Which it is. He is NOT saying she is extremist because she's a Muslim. It's a simple misunderstanding, so let's all just ya know, hold up and not cause unnecessary arguments. 
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Re: I need help, I'm scared and confused and battling with myself.
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2015, 11:23:45 PM »
I think you misunderstand Akyra. Angder is referring to the fact her anti-gay and such views are extremist. Which it is. He is NOT saying she is extremist because she's a Muslim. It's a simple misunderstanding, so let's all just ya know, hold up and not cause unnecessary arguments.

I think his issue is that his, uh, now deleted post said "extremist, or muslim" as if Muslims were automatically extremists/bad, which is wrong.

I mean, yeah, Islam lends itself pretty easily to justifying killings (read the koran) but their level of extremism is typical of most religions, and is fairly low.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/05/muslims-only-carried-out-2-5-percent-of-terrorist-attacks-on-u-s-soil-between-1970-and-2012.html

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Re: I need help, I'm scared and confused and battling with myself.
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2015, 11:39:31 PM »
Paradox, the issue was that Akyra threw an insult at Angder, and that was basically all that was posted.

Do not continue this any further. We all agree that it's wrong to judge the entire people of a religion or race.
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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2015, 11:58:00 PM »
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Re: I need help, I'm scared and confused and battling with myself.
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2015, 07:20:25 AM »
One thing I can say from a Christian background is this:

Relying on the Lord for everything without taking action yourself is irresponsible. She (and you, as much as you can) need to do something about these issues. I'll keep you in prayer, and your romantic interests are not sinful.
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