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[anoni]

  The red pill movement is basically a philosophy originating on Reddit about genders and how men and women interact in a dating environment. The movement is controversial because it propagates gender stereotypes but at the same time has been shown to be successful in dating and so forth.

  The key philosophy in the red pill basically is "Women are naturally submissive and are attracted to dominance in men, not emotional attachment. (IE: Women aren't attracted to "The nice guy")".

  I find this particularly interesting because emotional attachment is seen as very important in the LGBT+ for actual relationships. But according to people who follow the Red Pill philosophy, emotional attachment of a male is seen as "weak" to a female and generally emotional men will not have any success in the dating scene in a mainstream audience (so this doesn't include "cliche's" like Goth or furry).

  so what do you guys think about that?

[Nrein]

  The red pill movement is basically a philosophy originating on Reddit about genders and how men and women interact in a dating environment. The movement is controversial because it propagates gender stereotypes but at the same time has been shown to be successful in dating and so forth.

  The key philosophy in the red pill basically is "Women are naturally submissive and are attracted to dominance in men, not emotional attachment. (IE: Women aren't attracted to "The nice guy")".

  I find this particularly interesting because emotional attachment is seen as very important in the LGBT+ for actual relationships. But according to people who follow the Red Pill philosophy, emotional attachment of a male is seen as "weak" to a female and generally emotional men will not have any success in the dating scene in a mainstream audience (so this doesn't include "cliche's" like Goth or furry).

  so what do you guys think about that?

I wanted to come up with a thoughtful way to put my thoughts on this down but, I'm exhausted so I'm just gonna put it bluntly; This is stupid, but makes perfect sense. I've seen this a lot when it comes to the "mainstream" dating scene, where men don't want to do anything that may cause them to look weak in front of women, especially when it comes to emotions.

Honestly this just sounds like an excuse for men who have too much pride, and women who just want dominant, strong men.

[The Past]

Yeah, it isn't that accurate, but individuals have generally unique taste in things, so whatever floats their boat.

[HollowOfHaze]

If their results do show a common link between certain emotional paterns and the resulting success in finding a relationship, I would think that their base idea is on track, although pretty arbitrary.
Unless they were sampling a massive amount of people from many age groups and nationalities, I wouldn't rely on their findings for any future reference.
It might be less of "women in general like men who are insensitive" and more of "women from a certain age group with a certain background like men who are insensitive".


Today's generation and related media might also play a part in perpetuating the idea that men are supposed to be insensitive.

[The Past]

As a female, I would say the generalization of "women in general like men who are insensitive" is pretty inaccurate.
However, there is a difference between a man showing emotion versus being OVERLY-sensitive.

[Aldebar]

I'm female both biologically and mentally but I'm not very feminine, so while statements like "women tend to be attracted to dominance" might be true in a very general sense, I still find it just the slightest bit insulting. I myself am not attracted to dominance, nor men who feel like they have to prove how manly they are, and I when I hopefully do end up with someone, I want us to be friends and equals on a level that transcends our gender roles.

I also want to mention that I find the whole "nice guy" thing off-putting because most self-proclaimed "nice guys" aren't genuinely "nice" at all and are just acting that way out of desperation for dates and/or physical contact. You should be nice to others because it's part of being a decent person, not because you want something out of them.

[Grovygrunge]

It seems like this Red Pill thing is just generalizing. It's a half truth. Some women want the "nice guy" stereotypes though not a lot do. But the rest don't want an insensitive asshole either. People have different tastes in people sure but no one wants a douchebag who doesn't care about your problems, how you're feeling or what you're thinking. At least, the majority don't.


Personally I think dating is a waste of time. Most people who go searching for a partner don't get someone who's right for them or just aren't ready. Surprisingly, you can just end up in a relationship without meaning to and it is probably because you and the other person are really compatible. It's not that rare really.

[Kipsy]

I hope you guys don't mind me jumping in here, but it looked like an interesting conversation. So I thought I'd join in. I've never heard of the red pill theory. I don't think it's very true, might be for some people at least I can name a couple of my girlfriends that are attracted to such things. From my personal experiences I have a dominate personality and I wouldn't want to be with someone who was more dominate than I am. I prefer submissive, mushy, sensitive men. Like my squishy boyfriend. I don't see that as weak, I see it as something to build on in a relationship.  But of course this is just me and I cannot speak for every woman out there. I don't consider myself traditionally feminine other than dressing girly. I like being in charge and taking control of situations.

[SuperSimoholic]

Honestly I see men who are emotionally open as 'stronger' than men who keep it all in and act tough, because it means they're honest and willing to get hurt, and they don't care if they look 'feminine' or 'gay' because of it, because they have a strong sense of self.

My boyfriend is one such man. While he comes off as withdrawn to most people, he's emotionally available and doesn't have a fanny attack every time someone calls him gay. Honestly, men who act like they'be just been called a paedophile when they've only been called gay or implied to be a woman make me sick. Like, it's not a **censor** insult. If someone calls my boyfriend something like that, he's like "And so what if I am?" and the verbal assaulter will usually shut up then.

But as dumb as macho dick heads are, I know a lot of girls who are into that. And I don't want to generalise but all the girls I know that are into macho men are kinda... stupid. Like, the kind of people who can't spell simple words, and replace every 'you' with 'u' in all their messages... My mum and sister are this kind of people. We call them "chavs" here in England. But again, that's generalising.

[Kyuusoku]

 Hullo
*The short, small lynx meows*

[Dagmar1177]

  The red pill movement is basically a philosophy originating on Reddit about genders and how men and women interact in a dating environment. The movement is controversial because it propagates gender stereotypes but at the same time has been shown to be successful in dating and so forth.

  The key philosophy in the red pill basically is "Women are naturally submissive and are attracted to dominance in men, not emotional attachment. (IE: Women aren't attracted to "The nice guy")".

  I find this particularly interesting because emotional attachment is seen as very important in the LGBT+ for actual relationships. But according to people who follow the Red Pill philosophy, emotional attachment of a male is seen as "weak" to a female and generally emotional men will not have any success in the dating scene in a mainstream audience (so this doesn't include "cliche's" like Goth or furry).

  so what do you guys think about that?

I really REALLY, have a lot I want to say on this matter but I can't because I can't talk about this without going straight to R rated in my response (In fact I don't know if I could keep it bellow X rated). so I'm just going to bite my tongue on this one.

 Hullo
*The short, small lynx meows*

A O welcome

[HollowOfHaze]

 Hullo
*The short, small lynx meows*

Hello Silex. Don't think we've met before.

[Kyuusoku]

 We Have Met, You've Posted To My Forums

[Dagmar1177]

 We Have Met, You've Posted To My Forums

Which forums are those?

[HollowOfHaze]

She meant post I beleive.

I looked back and saw that I did in fact give advice to you once. You changed your species and name, and that is why I did not recongnize you Silex.

How are you doing?