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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #100695 on: September 03, 2014, 08:32:54 AM »
I used to spam the save-function before, but since it's been a while and I've mostly been playing games that asks me "Do you want to save?" lately my habits haven't really returned to me yet... This should be the last reminder I need to get back to save-spamming tho..

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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #100696 on: September 03, 2014, 08:34:33 AM »
Just don't do this!
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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #100697 on: September 03, 2014, 08:47:15 AM »
I'll try not to.
I really wish I could get Skyrim to work again..

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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #100698 on: September 03, 2014, 03:12:31 PM »
Baby elephants

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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #100699 on: September 03, 2014, 03:24:09 PM »
I saw a baby hippo.

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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #100700 on: September 09, 2014, 01:13:54 PM »
Interesting problem no will do.

Given a function f of n variables (IE: f(a1,a2,a3,a4,...,an)) find a function F on f that yields 0 for all values of any variable in f if f can be written as a linear combination of functions that each contain a subset of the variables in f.

That is, if f(a1,a2,a3,...an) can be written as g1(a1) + g2(a2) + ... + gn(an) OR g(a1, ... , ak) + h(a(k+1), ... , an) or any linear combination of functions that each don't contain every variable in f, then F(f) = 0 for all values of a1,a2,a3,..,an

An example.

if f(x,y,z) = x + y + z, then F(f(x,y,z)) = 0, as f(x,y,z) can be written as a(x) + b(y) + c(z)
if f(x,y,z) = x*y^2 + z(z-1) then F(f(x,y,z)) = 0, as f(x,y,z) can be written as a(x,y) + b(z)
if f(x,y) = (x + y)/(x*y) then F(f(x,y)) = 0 as f(x,y) can be written as 1/x + 1/y which is a(x) + b(y)

However, if f(x,y,z) = x*y*z then F(f(x,y,z)) != 0 for all values of x,y and z because you cannot write f(x,y,z) as a linear combination of functions!

One of my attempts at this was this.

F(f(a[0],..,a[n]) = diff(sum(diff(f,a[k]), k = 0..n), a[0],a[1],a[2],...a[n])

This function satisfies all the above conditions, but gives some FALSE positives.

Example. f(x,y,z) = x^2*y + z will yield zero because this is

diff(diff(f,x) + diff(f,y) + diff(f,z),x,y,z) = diff(2*x*y + x^2 + 1, x, y, z) = diff(2*y, y, z) = diff(2, z) = 0

This will work for any such function, however a false positive is

f(x,y,z) = x*y*z

as this is
diff(x*y + y*z + z*x,x,y,z) = diff(y+z,y,z) = diff(1, z) = 0


I wonder if somebody can come up with a function F that has NO false positives.
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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #100701 on: September 10, 2014, 06:35:11 AM »
And what about cheating? Choosing an empty subset would solve it, right? (Correct me if I'm wrong, just got up, I'll take a look at it when I'm done with morning stuff)? You can always choose "nothing" as it's always in any given set... But I assume that's not the point of this problem. 
It WAS too early.
Anyway, challenge accepted :3
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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #100702 on: September 10, 2014, 07:23:11 AM »
gah math kill it with fire


and moring stuff for me is


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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #100703 on: September 10, 2014, 08:43:10 AM »
And for me it is
get up, eat breakfast;
zombie-walk the dog;
>(right now I'm here)<
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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #100704 on: September 10, 2014, 08:11:00 PM »
Does this thread even know how to thread?
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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #100705 on: September 10, 2014, 08:16:03 PM »
heya razot good to see ya
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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #100706 on: September 10, 2014, 08:23:37 PM »
Good to see you too
but what is really seeing?
do we really see what is in front of us
what if light is actually opaque :O
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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #100707 on: September 11, 2014, 04:04:28 AM »
My Alarm clock freaked me out!
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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #100708 on: September 11, 2014, 09:04:16 AM »
My alarm clock is a random loud recording of the unrelenting force-shout from the Skyrim-trailer.. xP
Think it'd be more effective if it actually did send me flying into the wall as well tho x-x

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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #100709 on: September 11, 2014, 11:15:20 AM »
stuff stuff stuffily stuff stuff
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