The Random Thread

[Brisky]

I guess leftover pastries are bad? I don't know... I've never eaten pastries before...

And, wow, this has to be my first time playing tf2 at 2' in the night, but I have to say, I have never seen a denser concentration of toxic players before, in my life... It must be that all the obnoxious ones come out at night...

Being up against such a large amount of try-hards, it really surprised me I still ended topscore...

[Polaris]

I guess leftover pastries are bad? I don't know... I've never eaten pastries before...

And, wow, this has to be my first time playing tf2 at 2' in the night, but I have to say, I have never seen a denser concentration of toxic players before, in my life... It must be that all the obnoxious ones come out at night...

Being up against such a large amount of try-hards, it really surprised me I still ended topscore...

Haven't been playing TF2 for a very long time... Heard the whole game got kind of screwed over and players got angry when they introduced the Meet Your Match update?


Also, what's everyone's opinion about centaurs? I dont think I've seen any centaur sonas here on the forums as of yet!

[Brisky]

Well, yeah, the "mym" update didn't really arrive that welcome, but, now that the redicoulously long server connection times have gone away, I'd say that really the only thing that has changed in TF2 is that you now no longer can join your friends, when they're already playing in a valve server, and you can no longer switch teams. Wich is both rather annoying...

Oh, yes, and autobalance is litterally no longer a thing... Wich is just as much a curse as it is a blessing. Because yes, it means that you can no longer get swapped to the other team, moments before all your hard work for your own caused them to win, but it also means that when half of your team leaves the match, you're simply out of luck untill the matchmaker assigns new players to the game...

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And, about centaurs. Well, I think they're weird... (A lot weird'er'er than anthros, if you look at the concept) That's because, unlike anthros, centaurs don't make sense.

As weird as sounds, from an outsider's perspective, anthros, or furries, or even most mammals in general, have astronomically much in comllymon with humans. Being that they share the exact same base physiological structure as humans do.

I.E, besides strongly varying shapes that make animals look soo much diffirent than one another, like the diffirent ratios in bone sizes, and body shape that determine how their body is shaped, and the diffirences in the size/strenght of the muscles, and the flexibility of the joints and tendons that determine how they stand, and move. Move mammals actually have Exactly the same skeletal system, and biological function.

Wich is what makes that furries, actually, aren't even that weird of a thing.

Because there's two methods of making a furry: 1. Applying the human shape, figure, and intelligence to the body, while keeping the species key aspects such as fur/head/tail, etc. (The hybrid method), And 2. Altering the species form and build soo they can walk upright and use tools, and increasing their intelligence soo they can take part in a society. Now, both of these methods actually make complete sense, if not the latter more than the former.
Because yes, in theory, when you give a species the right genetic properties, they should eventually behave in a similair way as humans.
And, yes, if you allow a species to advance themselves in their state of evulotion, they will eventually behave in a similair way to humans, because it's what's happened to monkeys, what is happening to crows, and will start happening with all other lifeforms, eventually.

Centaurs however, don't make sense...

They don't share the same physiological structure with the rest of the mammal class. They're actually just one animal's body, with it's head cut off, and then a human torso (wich may or may not come with a human head) pasted inbetween them. And that just doesn't work...

For starters, they've got one human set, and one animal set double of everything thats in the torso. Heart, lungs, digestive system, you name it...

And where did it come from? How did the genetic material of the human torso make it into the animals one? Why would it even be there? In what way would such a species possibly benefit from such a form, for it to have happened in the first place?

It just doesn't make sense...

TL;DR, In my personal opinion, wich you can totally ignore if you don't care, centaurs are weird because they, unlike furries, don't make sense. The concept is dictated, by taking an animal body, cutting it's head of, and placing a human torso inbetween it. And there's simply no reason for it to be there. There's no reason for the species to benefit from that configuration, and it even causes problems associated with having two hearts, respiratory systens, and digestive tracts...

It just doesn't make sense...

[Polaris]

Well, yeah, the "mym" update didn't really arrive that welcome, but, now that the redicoulously long server connection times have gone away, I'd say that really the only thing that has changed in TF2 is that you now no longer can join your friends, when they're already playing in a valve server, and you can no longer switch teams. Wich is both rather annoying...

Oh, yes, and autobalance is litterally no longer a thing... Wich is just as much a curse as it is a blessing. Because yes, it means that you can no longer get swapped to the other team, moments before all your hard work for your own caused them to win, but it also means that when half of your team leaves the match, you're simply out of luck untill the matchmaker assigns new players to the game...

Spoiler for Hidden:

And, about centaurs. Well, I think they're weird... (A lot weird'er'er than anthros, if you look at the concept) That's because, unlike anthros, centaurs don't make sense.

As weird as sounds, from an outsider's perspective, anthros, or furries, or even most mammals in general, have astronomically much in comllymon with humans. Being that they share the exact same base physiological structure as humans do.

I.E, besides strongly varying shapes that make animals look soo much diffirent than one another, like the diffirent ratios in bone sizes, and body shape that determine how their body is shaped, and the diffirences in the size/strenght of the muscles, and the flexibility of the joints and tendons that determine how they stand, and move. Move mammals actually have Exactly the same skeletal system, and biological function.

Wich is what makes that furries, actually, aren't even that weird of a thing.

Because there's two methods of making a furry: 1. Applying the human shape, figure, and intelligence to the body, while keeping the species key aspects such as fur/head/tail, etc. (The hybrid method), And 2. Altering the species form and build soo they can walk upright and use tools, and increasing their intelligence soo they can take part in a society. Now, both of these methods actually make complete sense, if not the latter more than the former.
Because yes, in theory, when you give a species the right genetic properties, they should eventually behave in a similair way as humans.
And, yes, if you allow a species to advance themselves in their state of evulotion, they will eventually behave in a similair way to humans, because it's what's happened to monkeys, what is happening to crows, and will start happening with all other lifeforms, eventually.

Centaurs however, don't make sense...

They don't share the same physiological structure with the rest of the mammal class. They're actually just one animal's body, with it's head cut off, and then a human torso (wich may or may not come with a human head) pasted inbetween them. And that just doesn't work...

For starters, they've got one human set, and one animal set double of everything thats in the torso. Heart, lungs, digestive system, you name it...

And where did it come from? How did the genetic material of the human torso make it into the animals one? Why would it even be there? In what way would such a species possibly benefit from such a form, for it to have happened in the first place?

It just doesn't make sense...

TL;DR, In my personal opinion, wich you can totally ignore if you don't care, centaurs are weird because they, unlike furries, don't make sense. The concept is dictated, by taking an animal body, cutting it's head of, and placing a human torso inbetween it. And there's simply no reason for it to be there. There's no reason for the species to benefit from that configuration, and it even causes problems associated with having two hearts, respiratory systens, and digestive tracts...

It just doesn't make sense...

Well that was a rather long and well detailed analysis of centaurs! 


Yeah, I do have to agree that centaur sonas just dont make too much sense, like for example like a canine centaur that has an anthro upper body, but still retains the feral lower body of a normal canine! Again, centaurs rarely do make sense when it comes to try justifying their existence as what I'd imagine they're magical by nature, so that's a one explanation how would they even work! Can't explain something that truly defies the logic? Just slap "magic" on it and no one questions a thing!


Just look at this one for example! Truly the most oddest kind of centaur I've ever seen and it just looks so silly!

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[Trixsie Vixen]

Just pour the coffee straight into my eyes.

[Polaris]

It's called fantasy, it's not supposed to make sense. Not all furries design their characters to live in the same world/dimension/universe/reality, so they don't have to follow the same rules either. Besides, creativity and logic dwell in two different parts of the brain, and I don't see how anthropomorphic animals make sense in the first place.

Point taken, Baud. Some furries just dont follow, or belong to the same realm like the rest of the furries/scalies do and who am I to question how they work and can exist. To each their own like they say!


I still do find centaurs both in human mythology and furry fandom a bit odd in my opinion nevertheless!

[Brisky]

It's called fantasy, it's not supposed to make sense. Not all furries design their characters to live in the same world/dimension/universe/reality, so they don't have to follow the same rules either. Besides, creativity and logic dwell in two different parts of the brain, and I don't see how anthropomorphic animals make sense in the first place.

I wasn't saying it was supposed to make sense. Just that I thought it was weird it didn't, to such an extend. And, yeah, nothing against the people who are into that, nevertheless!

And, I thought I covered it in that lil' essay of mine, but, I do think that furries, and even scalies make sense, because they have very logical reasons to exist the way they do. A "furry" is way smarter than a feral animal, and can use tools to survive. So, it makes sense for a feral animal to go into that path of evolution, because is simply "a good idea" and will be beneficial for the species, to eventually lead them into becoming "furries".

Even scalies, and dragons are logical creatures. They have armour that can deflect attacks from predators, and (can sometimes) spit fire, as a defensive measure, or for hunting prey.

Again, centaurs aren't. Because I don't really see a reason to why a species would benefit from having a human torso between it's head, and neck...

But yes, it is fantasy after all... Soo who knows it wasn't just some crazy hag who turned someone into a centaur by doing exactly what I talked about, (magically cutting their head off, and placing a human torso between their body and head) But forgot to set "SV_reproduction 0/1" to "0"...

[Cheza]

...Said the anthropomorphic tank. :P

[Brisky]

@Cz

Oh, like tanks don't make sense...

Says the one who didn't give sufficient damns to spend one minute on reading a bot on how to classify them, soo just ended up naming all tanks "wardrobes".... >

@Baud

It scertainly is, but I'm still way happier when I see someone stick a little bit of effort to explaining why there's creatures roaming around with parts of other's copypasted into them, rather than just the good 'ol "it's magic and you're not supposed to question it!" It doesn't have to be super logical or sciency, but for a lot of people, it won't do without a little bit of explaination to put them to rest, and even an attempt to put logic into it will likely lead them into enjoying the work a lot more.

[Trixsie Vixen]

JRR Tolkien disapproved of how CS Lewis borrowed from multiple mythoi and put them all together.  Who shall we trust when experts disagree?

[Cheza]

The difference here being that tanks are real and would make a lot of sense if I was interested enough to read up on them, whereas there are as many furry-universes out there as there are furries ;P
What makes sense to me (being a talking four-legged immortal-in-the-sense-of-not-ageing winged magic-wielding shape-shifting dog-creature that actually doesn't even exist in the real world) most likely won't make sense to anyone else.
And that's just good, because being a furry would be boring if there were all kinds of rules saying what you can or can't do.


I'm just messing with you tho, everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
I don't really feel strongly one way or the other about taurs, but I have been fiddling with a few wooftaur concepts because it would make sense in my world.
Or well, it still doesn't make sense because there are no wooftaurs, but someone has decided they want to create on for whatever reason.
I mean, a huge carnivorous creature with the strength and size of a pony but also the intelligence and opposable thumbs of a human?
If it was a fantasy world, I could see those being really annoying to deal with in a fight unless they were on your side.

[Trixsie Vixen]

In D&D there is a creature called a Wemic.  It's basically a liontaur... anyway, I search for an appropriate image but found this instead

[Brisky]

@Cz

Well, that actually was a rather loose point from me, to be honest, as a tank being sentient, and capable of using a keyboard, and talking makes even less sense than centaurs do... >_<

And, I wasn't quite talking about "making sense" as in what they would be good for, but rather about how they happened in the first place...

And, yes, I may be a little obsessed with the biology behind stuff, but don't worry, I could totally undertand that people just don't care and want centaurs...

Just as I didn't care, when I came here, and wanted to be a sentient tank...


@Trixie

Don't you think centaurs are weird?

[Trixsie Vixen]

Well I am fascinated by comparative anatomy so yes, centaurs make no sense.  I generally don't think about them much, but if they are in books and RPGs I'm fine with them... but when they do pop up in movies and I see them move and do stuff I get a real uncanny valley thing.


As for an etiology I think any variation on "born of a crazy wizard's experiment" covers it.


Conceptually I feel that mermaids are even more weird.  I mean they don't have that problem of duplicate limbs, but half mammal half fish, how does that work?  Once you create a centaur at least they are self-supporting, but even if you magicked a mermaid... that biology is just nucking futs!

[Brisky]

Yeah, I meantioned wizardry...

Never thought about mermaids though... :\

I don't get it, what makes them soo much more diffirent than centaurs?