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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #98865 on: November 08, 2013, 01:03:33 PM »
It's just big numbers, the only equation that was used was the conservation of momentum

(m1 * v1 = m2 * v2)

So it's not hard, just big numbers (and I used a calculator for the big numbers xD)
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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #98866 on: November 08, 2013, 02:10:44 PM »
Srs posts, nope. Why not a lovely dose of /k/?
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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #98867 on: November 08, 2013, 02:39:26 PM »
Please anoni, no more physics.......... I've had enough for this year!!!!!! (exam's over, physics is done)
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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #98868 on: November 08, 2013, 02:44:52 PM »
NOW CLASS

I fired a 4 kg projectile out of a cannon that had a force of 60 N, I fired it at an angle 50 degrees to the horizontal on a flat surface. Assuming no air resistance or other effects, and take acceleration due to gravity to be 9.8 m/s2 how far would the projectile go?

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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #98869 on: November 08, 2013, 05:43:50 PM »
Nope. * Sends Anoni to challenge the telekinetic Episode of Stan Lee's show*
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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #98870 on: November 09, 2013, 04:38:40 AM »

One who cuddles much will appear very soon...

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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #98871 on: November 09, 2013, 05:50:16 AM »
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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #98872 on: November 09, 2013, 07:25:57 AM »

Hang on anoni...... don't I need to know how long the force is applied for, or did I miss something???
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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #98873 on: November 09, 2013, 08:43:32 AM »
Assume the force was applied for one second
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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #98874 on: November 09, 2013, 08:50:53 AM »
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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #98875 on: November 09, 2013, 10:28:18 AM »
Wow.... that must be a long barrel on the cannon.


4kg 60N 50degrees 1s


60 = 4a      a = 15ms-2     15 * 1 = 1     v = 15ms-1              That means that the barrel is 7.5 meters long, assuming force is constant along it and has an instant dropoff at the end.  :o

Anyway, now in the vertical direction, the velocity is sin(50) * 15 and in the horizontal, it's cos(50) * 15, because triangles are triangles. What we care about for now is the vertical velocity (11.491m/s). I'm assuming that the bottom of the barrel is touching the ground, so the top is at sin(50) * 7.5 meters (5.745m).


With these, I know that the peak of the flight will be reached at 11.491/9.8 seconds (1.173s) and will be 5.745*1.173 meters above the end of the barrel (12.484m above the ground).
Because v2 = u2 + 2ax, the velocity at the ground level is equal to the square root of 2ax (u = 0) and 2ax = 244.686, so v = 15.642m/s.


Time to ground = time to accelerate to 15.642m/s = 15.642 / 9.8 = 1.596s
The total time in the air is 1.173 + 1.596 seconds (2.769 seconds).




Now, to figure out the distance travelled, we can simply say that the horizontal velocity (9.642m/s) times the time (2.769s) is the distance. This gives us a distance of 26.699m.
Am I right?????? I hope I didn't screw up (I know I could have saved some equations if I looked up formulas, but you know... fun!)
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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #98876 on: November 09, 2013, 11:23:37 AM »
I don't even! I DON'T! And now I must sleep.

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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #98877 on: November 09, 2013, 12:58:29 PM »
Yep, looks like you got everything right.

I mean, originally I was assuming that the barrel was lengthless but the added complexity kind of made the question funner so yeah :D

Using the added complexity, my method was to simply solve the quadratic

0 = -a*t^2 + bt + c

where a = (1/2)g,
b = v sin(50) [v = 15]
c = l sin(50) [l = 7.5]

this would give you the full time but there is a whole range  of different methods one could try.

Good job! You may be the first person to actually correctly do one of my maths/physics questions AND you made it more complicated than I anticipated, so pat on the back for you :D

Wow.... that must be a long barrel on the cannon.


4kg 60N 50degrees 1s


60 = 4a      a = 15ms-2     15 * 1 = 1     v = 15ms-1              That means that the barrel is 7.5 meters long, assuming force is constant along it and has an instant dropoff at the end.  :o

Anyway, now in the vertical direction, the velocity is sin(50) * 15 and in the horizontal, it's cos(50) * 15, because triangles are triangles. What we care about for now is the vertical velocity (11.491m/s). I'm assuming that the bottom of the barrel is touching the ground, so the top is at sin(50) * 7.5 meters (5.745m).


With these, I know that the peak of the flight will be reached at 11.491/9.8 seconds (1.173s) and will be 5.745*1.173 meters above the end of the barrel (12.484m above the ground).
Because v2 = u2 + 2ax, the velocity at the ground level is equal to the square root of 2ax (u = 0) and 2ax = 244.686, so v = 15.642m/s.


Time to ground = time to accelerate to 15.642m/s = 15.642 / 9.8 = 1.596s
The total time in the air is 1.173 + 1.596 seconds (2.769 seconds).




Now, to figure out the distance travelled, we can simply say that the horizontal velocity (9.642m/s) times the time (2.769s) is the distance. This gives us a distance of 26.699m.
Am I right?????? I hope I didn't screw up (I know I could have saved some equations if I looked up formulas, but you know... fun!)
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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #98878 on: November 09, 2013, 03:18:32 PM »
Oh..... I completely missed the fact that I could do that lol.
Just a distance/time graph equation.


I think my time calculation is probably a few milliseconds off due to rounding, but yeah close enough.






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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #98879 on: November 09, 2013, 03:38:12 PM »
Wow 2 people know physics. I thought of something physics like but It's more like a theoretical question.




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Ok, say you had an aerial vehicle, say a commercial jet
and you had a double-barred cannon built into the aircraft. (let's go with the Hull)
If the Jet was over 2.5 tons (5,000 Lbs) and was falling at 1400 m/s at a 65º angle facing earth
plus the applied force of gravity 9.8 m/s^2.
Including we know the cannon's both barrels fire at the same time.
The cannon shoots at a force of 240 N.
Then how many shots are needed to slow the jet to a safe landing?
The jet low enough to crashland and be destroyed, about 130,000 M up.




5,000 Lbs - 240 N - 9.8 m/s^2 - 1400 m/s


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