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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #100815 on: September 27, 2014, 01:56:53 AM »
Are they?

If I invent a teleporter which disintegrates you and remakes you at your destination with the same memories.  Indistinguishable from the pre-teleport you... is it you?


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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #100816 on: September 27, 2014, 01:58:50 AM »
What if you disable the disintegration? D:

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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #100817 on: September 27, 2014, 02:02:25 AM »
Yes.  That is step 2 of the thought experiment.

Surely the original is more truly you than the 'clone'?

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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #100818 on: September 27, 2014, 05:40:19 AM »
This problem is solvable! If we think of "humans" as "objects" similar to Object Oriented programming languages like Java or Visual Basic, then the problem becomes simple. Lets say we can define a class "human" that has two state properties

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    P = Physical Appearance (Height, Age, Weight, ect)
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This is considered a "contract" of what makes a human. Each object is an instantiation of the class "Human", that is each object follows the same style as the class (it has two state variables P and M) but is simply an instance of the class rather than the entire class itself. Now if we consider a clone human, this would simply be an object of the Class human that just happens to have the same values as another object Human that exists. This is like creating two complex number objects in Java that have the same value, while the value is the same they are still two distinct objects, IE: The object reference is different.

  If you delete the original Object (we'll call A) and replace it with a new object of the same values (we'll call B) then the reference of the object has changed, (you've gone from referencing A to referencing B) but the values of the object haven't. So even though the two humans functionally are  the same and if the universe was a programming language it wouldn't be able to tell the humans apart, the humans are still different because they still reference two different people. That's how I see it.



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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #100819 on: September 27, 2014, 06:24:17 AM »
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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #100820 on: September 27, 2014, 07:53:41 AM »
This problem is solvable! If we think of "humans" as "objects" similar to Object Oriented programming languages like Java or Visual Basic, then the problem becomes simple. Lets say we can define a class "human" that has two state properties

Class _Human {
    P = Physical Appearance (Height, Age, Weight, ect)
    M = Mental State (Neural connections, personality, etc)
}

This is considered a "contract" of what makes a human. Each object is an instantiation of the class "Human", that is each object follows the same style as the class (it has two state variables P and M) but is simply an instance of the class rather than the entire class itself. Now if we consider a clone human, this would simply be an object of the Class human that just happens to have the same values as another object Human that exists. This is like creating two complex number objects in Java that have the same value, while the value is the same they are still two distinct objects, IE: The object reference is different.

  If you delete the original Object (we'll call A) and replace it with a new object of the same values (we'll call B) then the reference of the object has changed, (you've gone from referencing A to referencing B) but the values of the object haven't. So even though the two humans functionally are  the same and if the universe was a programming language it wouldn't be able to tell the humans apart, the humans are still different because they still reference two different people. That's how I see it.


I agree!  And that why I wouldn't use such a teleporter or DEATH-MACHINE! as I would call it.

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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #100821 on: September 27, 2014, 08:07:12 AM »
It's a DEER!! or wait no, A FAWN! or is it Dawn?.... BEWARE THE NEGATIVE
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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #100822 on: September 27, 2014, 08:09:47 AM »
I'm a fox!


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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #100823 on: September 27, 2014, 08:18:48 AM »
*Pets your antlers* You kinda look kike a relative of our buddy Armonia..
when you think about it.. it's ammonia with an R, simple and easy.. no hard work to make a name.
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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #100824 on: September 27, 2014, 12:24:55 PM »
Why is it so much more fun creating awkward moments in an rp if you're rping as a feral?


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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #100825 on: September 28, 2014, 12:37:50 AM »
probably because of the less things you can do as a feral..
or the fact that people can ride on your back.
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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #100826 on: September 28, 2014, 12:54:54 AM »
Awkward being a feral? Less to do as a feral?
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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #100827 on: September 28, 2014, 01:01:15 AM »
It's been a while. Cheza, what's a woof?
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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #100828 on: September 28, 2014, 01:48:30 AM »
I's a woof =^-^=
No idea exactly -what- a woof is tho xP It's (or at least this particular one's) got the appearance of a canine, the personality and some behaviours "typical" for a feline and the brain of a goldfish for a brain. This particular woof also randomly grew wings some time ago after poking a very powerful magical rock. Birdwoof *squawk*
I guess that deep down it's really just a species-confused normal boring old wolf or something xP
Or perhaps it's some sort of fox/vulpine. Who knows? All guesses are good guesses in this case, I'd guess.




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Re: The Random Thread
« Reply #100829 on: September 28, 2014, 04:31:36 AM »
I believe the Chezwoof is the queen of all woofs and woofs are what wolfs dream of becoming.  Dogs dream of becoming wolfs and birdwoofs dream of becoming regular dogs.

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