Calling all furry scientists

[Counterpeir]

The dream of many(not all) furs out there, Semi or Full transformation. This is a posting to share ideas about how it could be done scientifically. Also debating the philosophical,ethical and social repercussions of this if it is actually done. I personally would welcome such a process and get it myself. Would you

[anoni]

Easiest way would be to simulate a furry self within a virtual environment, such as Virtual reality.
Harder way would to physically clone a "furry body" that is compatible, implant brain into new organic or synthetic furry body.
Hardest way would be to modify your own body to be a furry body.

[Eesha]

About the harder and the hardest, it demand great technological progress, creating or modifying a body is hard, we don't fully understand genetic structure and genes. We know how it work, but not how to create new one or modify them (well, yes we actually can, but just a few, not enough for a new body with brand new genetic). So let's suppose we will  modify our actual body, because this one already have functionning organs and muscles, it's a nice start, don't you think ? 


So yeah, it could be done, but how much would it cost at first ? Probably hundreds of millions dollars, that a bit expensive 


But let's say we have mastered this technique and now it cost "only" about 10,000 $ (still a bit expensive but it's better). Some Furrys would have it, and would be able to test this new body. Well a modification like that is not easy to handle, our brain will be lost, if you use digitigrade legs, the walking will be different so you may need reeducation. Then, if you have a new nose and a new pair of ears, capable to hear and smell better, your brain may not be able to process thoses information (I'm not sure though, I'm not a neuro physician). Okay, so you may need reeducation, and some time to be used to the new sensations.


Then, once you're out of all this, you understand the main problem : people.
You are different from other people, they will fear you because you're not the same, they don't understand what or who you are, so they will be most likely to hate you. Most of the people will treat you like they did with the black population about 200 years ago, you're not like them, and difference is not something people like.


After that come the second problem : pretty much everything is not ergonomic for you.
Maybe you won't be able to drive or pilot anything with that kind of legs, pants are not made for you if you have a tail (and many of us would have one), and my most feared problem : How the hell I am supposed to use my headphones 
And since people don't like you, manufacturer will probably not produce anything for you, so you will live with that problem for a long time.


Until you launch a revolution and slice some heads off (not the kind of the community I must say), you will alway have thoses problems.








Beside all that, that would be awesome 

[Karric]

personally i have only learnt about basic genetic modification E.G. cloning and changing bacteria by changing the plasmid DNA to produce human insulin for people with diabetes and though my knowledge in the field of genetic modification is far lees than what it is in the fields of physics i still think i have a rough idea on the possibility of taking on a task such as this i personally think that in the future it would theoretically be possible though it is far beyond our current capabilities as we have only just developed a way of making a human egg that can be made of the genetic material of 3 people and still be fertilized (sorry i forgot the correct name for this) so in my opinion in the future it may be possible but not for a long time


i suppose a way of figuring out how to do it quicker would be to get a D wave computer to go through algorithms to find out the most logical way of doing it and even if you find a way of doing it through that then you would still have to do a lot of research done it that would still take many years as nothing like this would of ever been done before so lots of research would need to be done before a person would be willing to try and have it done to them or their child


also if it was going to be doe genetically it would most likely need to be done to a baby or a embryo to be more specific as that way all the cells would have the correct genetic information to do what they would need to do as a lot cell mutations would be required to do such a thing




also sorry if its hard to read or their is bad spelling i am dyslexic so please excuse me

[anoni]

Actually, thinking about it, it might just be easier to do cosmetic surgery on a person so they appear anthro. I feel like that's something that could be achievable within this century.

[Karric]

Actually, thinking about it, it might just be easier to do cosmetic surgery on a person so they appear anthro. I feel like that's something that could be achievable within this century.

yeah it probably could be done like that though it would have to be done in bits e.g. legs wait a month the next part wait a month the next part, i think this because their would be too much blood loss and risk of infection if it was done all in one

[anoni]

Probably, but even today people have done very similar things

Though the results are... well, I would say not ideal

[Karric]

yeah i kinda know what you mean its not the best

[ST-84 Sahelanthropus]

Nanomachines, son.

_{Uugh, I'll probably make a more serious contribution to this discussion later. Just wanted to put that there, as I believe that's the key to achieving the trans-Humanist furry dream.}

[Karric]

Nanomachines, son.

_{Uugh, I'll probably make a more serious contribution to this discussion later. Just wanted to put that there, as I believe that's the key to achieving the trans-Humanist furry dream.}

you know a man has predicted that in 25 years well now 24 nano technology will of advanced so much that we will be able to make robots that are in the blood stream that repair cells basically making you e mortal how cool is that this guy isnt a weird guy that dosent know what he is on about he actually has made a lot of big predictions with good accuracy

[ST-84 Sahelanthropus]

Uhh, Nostradamus?

[Karric]

dont know the guys name all i know is he has a good reputation and this prediction

[xephoran]

That's an interesting prediction. I've also heard one where nano bots become self replicating and suffocate all life. 

On a more related note... I feel like gene modification would be the process used. We've made alot of breakthroughs with both stem cells and CRISPR/Cas-9. We're still a long ways off though.

[drakewithout]

a biodesined symbiotic life form that acted as a second skin and restructured dna, (much like a virus dose, but in stead of self replicating it would just insert new code) much like a second skin, it wold have to be liked to your metabolism to start with, and there are morality issue.

[Karric]

a biodesined symbiotic life form that acted as a second skin and restructured dna, (much like a virus dose, but in stead of self replicating it would just insert new code) much like a second skin, it wold have to be liked to your metabolism to start with, and there are morality issue.

actually that would be a good way of doing it however the virus would need to mutate nearly every cell and it would have to be able to change the skeletal structure to achieve its full goal so it would need to create new bones which would be an issue


you are right their will be a lot of moral issues but at the end of the day it is down to the person