Calling all furry scientists

[Karric]

then all you have to do is get a rocket to titan find a way to stay alive at temperatures of -179 Celsius have a large oxygen and food + water supply and have large wings to flap 


yeah it dosent seem like we arre gonna do that any time soon 

[anoni]

My thoughts on the discussion

Fusion Reactor:

  We don't quite have that technology yet but we're getting closer. Some cool things to note, first of we can do fusion reactions pretty easily, the problem is getting useful work out of them. Fusion bombs, like the hydrogen bomb, for example are uncontrolled fusion reactions, great for blowing stuff up but not so great for powering stuff. In general, fusion reactions burn extremely hot, a nuclear bomb will burn hotter than the temperature of the sun, and currently no material ever known could withstand that heat without being damaged. So, one way to confine nuclear reactions is to simply not have them touch anything, but instead confine them with magnetic fields in a device known as a Tokamak. Within a Tokamak we can successfully control nuclear fusion, but unfortunately the amount of energy that is required to run the Tokamak is more than the energy that is released from nuclear fusion... currently. So currently, nuclear fusion isn't possible, and confining it into something small is even less possible, however as time progresses we might eventually crack it. All we need is for the nuclear fusion to release just a little bit more energy than it requires to actually fuse, in a controlled way, and we have a working fusion reactor.

Gamma Genesplicing:

  This is a good way to get cancer, not really much more though, the chances of becoming a furry from gamma radiation mutating your cells DNA are next to none, the chances of getting cancer are quite high though.

Nano machines:

  I don't exactly know how nano machines would truly help. I mean you could get nano machines to reform the body (an extremely painful and possibly deadly process), but if the body still has the same code and genetic DNA, it will just grow normally, the nano machines would need to, in order to keep fur growing and stuff, either change the humans hormone levels or the humans DNA, in which case why do you even really need the nano bots in the first place? If you can already change DNA, and introduce hormones into the system, nano machines wouldn't really give much of a benefit.

Birthing Anthros:

  With genetic engineering being one of the most accelerated fields of science today, this seems possible (even in our life times maybe) but morally questionable. The thing your creating isn't you, and probably won't have the same opinions as you, even clones don't think the same. So, given that, what if they don't want to be Anthros as much as you do? Seems unreasonable to me!

Uploading brain data into a machine:

  Cyberpunk! It would be really cool if we could do this, some things though.
    1. The machine, where you uploaded your brain data to, wouldn't be you. It'd act like you, have your memories and have your thought processes, but it still wouldn't be you. You wouldn't experience what it experiences, it's basically just a clone, so for you being anthro it's still no luck!
    2. Requires a lot of storage, which if Moore's law keeps true we'll get in only a few decades, but all signs are pointing to the end of moore's law, and the birth of Quantum Computers. But currently we're not entirely sure how efficient quantum storage will be compared to classical storage. Eventually there will be a limit to how much storage we can have, though obviously this limit will be much more than what our brain can store, it just means that the rate at which we expand our storage capacities is probably gonna be slowing (still increasing but no longer exponential), so might take a little longer to get to that stage.
    3. We still don't understand how the brain words, and that's an important thing we need to do before we can get that going.

[Karric]

  [/size]This is a good way to get cancer, not really much more though, the chances of becoming a furry from gamma radiation mutating your cells DNA are next to none, the chances of getting cancer are quite high though.[/size]


erm actually with my knowledge it is none it is impossible for that to happen i personally was skeptical on that bit


nano machines could alter bits of your body maby making the very small hairs that are located more like fur adding a filiment to give them the desierd colour and such


also i personally think furry ai is the furthest thing we are from doing out of the lyst




personally i think we shoud work on proving the multiverse theory then work on a way of using quantum entanglement to teleport some humans to a universe whir furries are real

[anoni]

Multiverse theory relies on something called quantum decoherence, basically universes split when a state of a quantum system is observed, for each possible resulting measurement a new universe is, supposedly, created. However, once the universes are created that quantum system is effectively "observed" and the universe in question acts as any normal unitary universe, and you can't escape from that. The idea of quantum decoherence basically states that, under our understanding of multiverse theory, going to another universe is theoretically and mathematically impossible. Surprisingly, gamma radiation turning you into a furry is not technically impossible, just with a negligible possibility (ie: The probability is so small it might as well be impossible).

  EDIT: Never mind, there are some new possibilities out there that believe gravity might be weakly coupling multiverses, which means we may be able to send signals from one universe to the next. I don't know how valid that idea is, but it shows that it's not technically impossible.

  And fur isn't what makes a furry a furry, they can already, with today's technology, cover your body in fur, or hair, quite easily. The problem is the actual skeletal changes that would go into making an anthro.

[Rho'Syn Ilwynog]

I think the closest we will get is mechanical exoskeletons for IRL things. Expensive as hell but possible. Seeing as reconstructing the tissue of a human is very highly detailed, adding a robotic suit around it (A la FNAF) may work better.


The downloading consciousness is one way of doing it, but we don't know what consciousness does when it leaves the body. is it the original? Or is it something new? It's kind of like teleportation. You have to basically obliterate something and then reassemble it elsewhere. Thus, the question, is it the same thing? Or a new thing? Will it still have consciousness after it has been moved? Or will it be a husk?


I think remote VR with pods would be easier. Or exoskeletons. Hoping for exoskeletons.

[Karric]

The teleportation between the 2 universe was more a joke I wasn't being serous but yes gravity is belived to affect differant universes as dark flow is some of the greatest evidence we have for the multiverse theory well evidence that is observable and all of that is based on the idea that gravity can affect differant universes

I know that it takes more than fur but it was just one example of how nanobots could help

Personally I think furry so is really far away as the best so we have is asimo and well that is no wear near good enough yet while the technology is amazing it still isn't close enough
We have actually made a rabot that thinks exactly like a work as we have mapped all of the nral connections in a worms brain meaning that this robot thinks exactly like a wrom

[anoni]

Well as I said, I think the easiest and most realistic way to become a furry, in our life times, is through VR.

VR is making a come back so hopefully it sticks this time round, then we might get a SL VR and you can move around as your fursona, eventually we might even be able to get suits that let us feel what we feel in the game world.

[Karric]

yeah we could always push for a dyson sphear not in our lifetime but if we make one we would have more than enough energy to do that 

[Counterpeir]

Thanks for all the responses. I look forward to hearing more theories. I'll make furries real someday, i'm sure of it.

[anoni]

yeah we could always push for a dyson sphear not in our lifetime but if we make one we would have more than enough energy to do that 

In a thread on a different area of the forum I did a comprehensive analysis on whether or not a Dyson sphere around earth would actually be feasible.

The cost of the Dyson sphere, if my calculations were correct, is this:

Spoiler for Hidden:

Now if we use the solar cell with that efficiency of 44%, the cost of producing such a material is roughly $680 per kilogram, lets make a rough estimate and say that every square metre of solar cell is 1 kg. If we assumed the solar cells were in outer space (the borderline: 100km above sea level) that would give our solar cell orb a whopping surface area of 5.27*10¹⁴ m² meaning that the price to build a sphere would be ~$35,860,312,699,584,860. Which is more than 100x the amount of total derivative contracts in the world (IE: About 100x more than the global economy). Now to the price of getting a solar panel up there in the first place, currently it costs approximately $5,167 to send one kilogram up to space (this is done in bulk) which means the cost of sending all the mass to space would be $2.72*10¹⁸, approximately 1,000 times more than the economy. Finally, solar powers are measured in how many cents it costs to maintain a maximum wattage, the most efficient solar power we have (in terms of price and cost) costs roughly 12.5c per Kilowatt of power/hour. The sun currently gives the entirety of the earth 174 PW, but this has 100km more of a radius than the earth so the amount of wattage is more 179 PW, or 179,000,000,000,000 KW of power. Using the 44% efficiency margin that means per hour you'd need to pay 2.23*10¹³ PER HOUR to get all that energy. Again roughly 0.1x the global economy per hour. In a year you'd be expecting to pay $1.960 *10¹⁷, 100 x more than global economy. So altogether for a radius of 100 km above the earths surface for a year, it would cost a whopping $6.417*10¹⁸. The larger you make the radius, the more cost you get!

So yeah.

[Karric]

haha in the calculations did you incllood the fact that if we put a dysonspear around the sun their would need to be more meteriol for us to use than what we ahve on earth as yeah as everyone knows thew earth is a lot smaller than the sun so we would need to mine other planets to get enough metal and i think their might not even be enough metal in out solar system so we would need to travel to a differant one and if we could do that we would be better of making it around a red dwarf as we would still get enough energy less material would be needed as it is smaller and it wouldn't cause earth to freeze over

[anoni]

haha in the calculations did you incllood the fact that if we put a dysonspear around the sun their would need to be more meteriol for us to use than what we ahve on earth as yeah as everyone knows thew earth is a lot smaller than the sun so we would need to mine other planets to get enough metal and i think their might not even be enough metal in out solar system so we would need to travel to a differant one and if we could do that we would be better of making it around a red dwarf as we would still get enough energy less material would be needed as it is smaller and it wouldn't cause earth to freeze over

There's definitely enough metal in our solar system, and depending on what TYPE of metal, there might even enough metal on ear (if we're using something like Silicon) to actually surround the entire sun. The thing is, the sun is really big but out Dyson sphere can also be really thin, the earths crust is much more thicker than what our dyson sphere needs to be. The sun is approximately 100 x the radius of earth, which means it has ~10,000x the surface area. If we could carve out all the material with a 100m radius of earth, we'd be able to create a dyson sphere around that sun, with that material, that is 1cm thick

[Karric]

while that is possible you do mention it depends on the material we use and considering 70% of the earth is iron and we will also need a lot of copper we will also need to make a computer far grater than what we have to run the dysosphear and also their is going to need to be a way to radiate heat away quickly as a large spear covering up the sun would generate a lot of heat meaning their is going to be places to let off heat
while your calculations are correct they dont take into consideration the abundance of the materials and margin for error i say that as we are only human and to make such a thing their is going to be the odd problem that is goign to need to be fixed and also what you are talking of doing is pretty much destroying the earth to make it and if we do have to destroy a planet to make it i think everyone would like to keep earth as a historical pice or almost a nature reserve as their is lots of life on earth and to destroy earth just so humans get a vr is simply selfish and uncalled for while some people would say it is advancing humanity i think any educated person would agree with me on this