Furry Hatred

[Alonzorion]

I love how tumblr freaks out if you use the wrong pronouns but be furry and they will murder you. Can they really demand acceptance with accepting all

I've been on Tumblr for years and never had an issue, nor have I seen a person harassed.

While I agree overall, I have seen people say things like: "I have a crush on sonic the hedgehog, and no I'm not a furry" and such. So I see that some people feel its wrong to be a furry, and have seen some rather stupid "jokes". Fact, every time I see a furry post on tumblr that isn't on a furry related blog, the post is normally making fun of our perverted side of the fandom. Although in the end, I guess its really nothing wrong, and all in the name of fun.

Yeah, I tend to look over stuff like that.

[Alessia Starfurr]

People tend to think the one represents the many they see one furry whose into all these things and thinks we're all into it. It's typical stereotype bull crap.

[Ibi Tanvaal]

<Short rant is short>When people hate on anything, I'm more disappointed by their bad grammar than the (usually) sloppy and easily countered arguments that I don't bother with.
One is entitled to an opinion, but please, PLEASE learn how to construct a valid point and a coherent sentence! PLEASE!!!!!!
<Rant over>

[BennyJackdaw]

I think another big thing is it's not just the media that shuns us, but makers of games basically ignore us. For example, the Project X Zone franchise. It has all these cool anthro VILLAIN characters, but every single playable character is human. Even the ones that "technically" aren't human are still human in appearance. I feel like the games were just designed as a middle finger to a group that, I think, could actually be a good potential market. Like, if they just had human goodguys, that would alienate furries. If they had anthro playables mixed in, THEN they would be appealing to a broader audience, and more people would buy the game.

...But so few good games anymore have goodguy anthros in them.

[Crest Is Dead ((For Now))]

I think another big thing is it's not just the media that shuns us, but makers of games basically ignore us. For example, the Project X Zone franchise. It has all these cool anthro VILLAIN characters, but every single playable character is human. Even the ones that "technically" aren't human are still human in appearance. I feel like the games were just designed as a middle finger to a group that, I think, could actually be a good potential market. Like, if they just had human goodguys, that would alienate furries. If they had anthro playables mixed in, THEN they would be appealing to a broader audience, and more people would buy the game.

...But so few good games anymore have goodguy anthros in them.

I definitely understand that. However video game heroes are normally kinda dull so meh. Although if there was an anthro video game I'd buy it one hundred percent.

[Alessia Starfurr]

I always played the wolf in city of heros or whatever it was.

[Alessia Starfurr]

I miss the old sonic games not the ones on earth.... I wish powerranges would have met the same fate as SATAM.

[BennyJackdaw]

Sonic the Hedgehog is dead as a franchise. They somehow manage to publish a game once in a while just to remind us that it'a cap.

Dust: An Elysian Tail however is a very good game which I personally loved. Plus che protagonist is a badass.

Now, in Sonic's defense, he gets a good game every now and then. Yeah, Sonic Boom WiiU was a complete load, but Sonic Boom 3DS was actually okay.

[Crest Is Dead ((For Now))]

Also Sonic Generations was really good.

[Grovygrunge]

I think another big thing is it's not just the media that shuns us, but makers of games basically ignore us. For example, the Project X Zone franchise. It has all these cool anthro VILLAIN characters, but every single playable character is human. Even the ones that "technically" aren't human are still human in appearance. I feel like the games were just designed as a middle finger to a group that, I think, could actually be a good potential market. Like, if they just had human goodguys, that would alienate furries. If they had anthro playables mixed in, THEN they would be appealing to a broader audience, and more people would buy the game.

...But so few good games anymore have goodguy anthros in them.

There's a really obvious reason for why this is. Like super obvious. How has no one managed to mention this? Video games now a days, at least in the AAA market, are designed to have relatable hero characters that people want to be or want to control. Now using the logic of a cynical business man what is more relatable to a human, another human or a weird furry alien thing? If you answered the latter you clearly ignored my thing saying use cynical businessman logic. They are appealing to a broader audience by not having anthro hero characters. It's how they think.


Not saying it's right as anyone with a brain knows humans can relate to the weirdest things in the world. I'm just pointing out it has absolutely nothing to do with some anti furry conspiracy in video games and stuff.

[BennyJackdaw]

I think another big thing is it's not just the media that shuns us, but makers of games basically ignore us. For example, the Project X Zone franchise. It has all these cool anthro VILLAIN characters, but every single playable character is human. Even the ones that "technically" aren't human are still human in appearance. I feel like the games were just designed as a middle finger to a group that, I think, could actually be a good potential market. Like, if they just had human goodguys, that would alienate furries. If they had anthro playables mixed in, THEN they would be appealing to a broader audience, and more people would buy the game.

...But so few good games anymore have goodguy anthros in them.

There's a really obvious reason for why this is. Like super obvious. How has no one managed to mention this? Video games now a days, at least in the AAA market, are designed to have relatable hero characters that people want to be or want to control. Now using the logic of a cynical business man what is more relatable to a human, another human or a weird furry alien thing? If you answered the latter you clearly ignored my thing saying use cynical businessman logic. They are appealing to a broader audience by not having anthro hero characters. It's how they think.


Not saying it's right as anyone with a brain knows humans can relate to the weirdest things in the world. I'm just pointing out it has absolutely nothing to do with some anti furry conspiracy in video games and stuff.

It's narcissistic, is what it is. Plus, it's bad enough that so many games have these shallow, poorly designed human characters as the main star, but humans are also treated as if we are the "absolute good," as if we are the absolute ONLY species that's allowed to be good, have a heart, or be capable of anything other than killing and wiping out the oh-so glorious human race. Not to mention, there's no more "saving the world" anymore, just "saving the human race."

Plus, if there's any species, real or fantastical, that I can relate to, it's basically any creature BUT humans. I don't want my character to be like me: I want my character to be as little like me as possible. Besides, humans are boring looking creatures.

Even with your analogy, I still think there's some stigma against furries in video game makers. I mean seriously, there's NO REASON that either Project X Zone couldn't have a single anthro character.

[Alessia Starfurr]

I think another big thing is it's not just the media that shuns us, but makers of games basically ignore us. For example, the Project X Zone franchise. It has all these cool anthro VILLAIN characters, but every single playable character is human. Even the ones that "technically" aren't human are still human in appearance. I feel like the games were just designed as a middle finger to a group that, I think, could actually be a good potential market. Like, if they just had human goodguys, that would alienate furries. If they had anthro playables mixed in, THEN they would be appealing to a broader audience, and more people would buy the game.

...But so few good games anymore have goodguy anthros in them.

There's a really obvious reason for why this is. Like super obvious. How has no one managed to mention this? Video games now a days, at least in the AAA market, are designed to have relatable hero characters that people want to be or want to control. Now using the logic of a cynical business man what is more relatable to a human, another human or a weird furry alien thing? If you answered the latter you clearly ignored my thing saying use cynical businessman logic. They are appealing to a broader audience by not having anthro hero characters. It's how they think.


Not saying it's right as anyone with a brain knows humans can relate to the weirdest things in the world. I'm just pointing out it has absolutely nothing to do with some anti furry conspiracy in video games and stuff.

It's narcissistic, is what it is. Plus, it's bad enough that so many games have these shallow, poorly designed human characters as the main star, but humans are also treated as if we are the "absolute good," as if we are the absolute ONLY species that's allowed to be good, have a heart, or be capable of anything other than killing and wiping out the oh-so glorious human race. Not to mention, there's no more "saving the world" anymore, just "saving the human race."

Plus, if there's any species, real or fantastical, that I can relate to, it's basically any creature BUT humans. I don't want my character to be like me: I want my character to be as little like me as possible. Besides, humans are boring looking creatures.

Even with your analogy, I still think there's some stigma against furries in video game makers. I mean seriously, there's NO REASON that either Project X Zone couldn't have a single anthro character.

exactlY i hate humans I don't roleplay to be human, because I am human i roleplay because i want to forget life and make up my own fantasy life as a furry creature with special powers that seem supernatural something diffrent.

[Grovygrunge]

It's narcissistic, is what it is. Plus, it's bad enough that so many games have these shallow, poorly designed human characters as the main star, but humans are also treated as if we are the "absolute good," as if we are the absolute ONLY species that's allowed to be good, have a heart, or be capable of anything other than killing and wiping out the oh-so glorious human race. Not to mention, there's no more "saving the world" anymore, just "saving the human race."

Plus, if there's any species, real or fantastical, that I can relate to, it's basically any creature BUT humans. I don't want my character to be like me: I want my character to be as little like me as possible. Besides, humans are boring looking creatures.

Even with your analogy, I still think there's some stigma against furries in video game makers. I mean seriously, there's NO REASON that either Project X Zone couldn't have a single anthro character.

Well I mean why wouldn't humans want to save the human race? Everything in nature besides us, as far as we know, is focused purely on survival of the species. So why wouldn't we? Not being able to relate to humans is pretty strange. I don't think we're that great but I mean I can still happily relate to humans. As for use looking boring, that's just wrong. I mean we got opposable thumbs, which is real unique, we got this complex system of nerves and organs and electric currents and shit inside us. It's cool. We're a very unique species in many ways.


As for that last bit, that just sounds like you have an issue with yourself. I can relate. I feel that the reason I pointed out counts as a reason. Not a good one, but it's understandable isn't it? They want to play safe and get lots of money. Which sucks.

[BennyJackdaw]

It's narcissistic, is what it is. Plus, it's bad enough that so many games have these shallow, poorly designed human characters as the main star, but humans are also treated as if we are the "absolute good," as if we are the absolute ONLY species that's allowed to be good, have a heart, or be capable of anything other than killing and wiping out the oh-so glorious human race. Not to mention, there's no more "saving the world" anymore, just "saving the human race."

Plus, if there's any species, real or fantastical, that I can relate to, it's basically any creature BUT humans. I don't want my character to be like me: I want my character to be as little like me as possible. Besides, humans are boring looking creatures.

Even with your analogy, I still think there's some stigma against furries in video game makers. I mean seriously, there's NO REASON that either Project X Zone couldn't have a single anthro character.

Well I mean why wouldn't humans want to save the human race? Everything in nature besides us, as far as we know, is focused purely on survival of the species. So why wouldn't we? Not being able to relate to humans is pretty strange. I don't think we're that great but I mean I can still happily relate to humans. As for use looking boring, that's just wrong. I mean we got opposable thumbs, which is real unique, we got this complex system of nerves and organs and electric currents and shit inside us. It's cool. We're a very unique species in many ways.


As for that last bit, that just sounds like you have an issue with yourself. I can relate. I feel that the reason I pointed out counts as a reason. Not a good one, but it's understandable isn't it? They want to play safe and get lots of money. Which sucks.

Except EVERYTHING ELSE is disposable to your typical human heroes in videogames and certain media. Everything from the birds to the trees? That stuff is disposable just as long as the human race profits., Also, not all species only care about survival, and I'm sick of people making that excuse.

Maybe because wolves don't go out and try to wipe out the human race, or because rhinos don't live to saw people's hair off, or because bats and snails don't spend millions of dollars on soldiers and tanks to fight an idiots war instead of putting that money to health care. Oh, and lets not forget the fact humans are a species that often encourages the bullying of those who don't belong, and that when people try to help the planet, they are treated like terrorists, or that humans are a creature that knows right from wrong, but often doesn't care. Yeah, there are good humans and bad animals out there, but as a whole it's the actions of evil people that prevail over those who do good, and until things change with the state of our own species, I will always be misanthropic.

So what if we have opposable thumbs? And complex nerves and whatnot? Who cares? None of that makes humans look any less boring to me, so no it's NOT wrong. And no, I DON'T have to relate to humans, so stop trying to convince me to like or relate to humans, please.

I am currently working on a book involving non-humans. Lately I have been trying to think of ways to mature my book, and I'm willing to do a lot of things to mature the book. The one thing I am NOT willing to do (besides make it a sexual book or something like that) is make the book about humans. There are people out there DYING for media that doesn't star humans, as well as people who, believe it or not, could care less what the star of the book is. If it's well made, people will read a book that's not about humans. I would rather make a book about non-humans that breaks even at best than make a book about humans that makes millions. If people want to read about humans, there's thousands upon thousands of other books that star humans. My book is for people like me who want something different.

That's basically my two cents on those comments. Not everyone likes/relates to humans. Some people don't want the same human story over and over and over. Some people want something different. Sure, we get animated movies for those who don't want humans, and a few games every once in a while. But for every form of media about non-humans, there's 5 to 10 where humans are the absolute good and all other life is scum.

[Halei-Helai]

Except EVERYTHING ELSE is disposable to your typical human heroes in videogames and certain media. Everything from the birds to the trees? That stuff is disposable just as long as the human race profits., Also, not all species only care about survival, and I'm sick of people making that excuse.

Maybe because wolves don't go out and try to wipe out the human race, or because rhinos don't live to saw people's hair off, or because bats and snails don't spend millions of dollars on soldiers and tanks to fight an idiots war instead of putting that money to health care. Oh, and lets not forget the fact humans are a species that often encourages the bullying of those who don't belong, and that when people try to help the planet, they are treated like terrorists, or that humans are a creature that knows right from wrong, but often doesn't care. Yeah, there are good humans and bad animals out there, but as a whole it's the actions of evil people that prevail over those who do good, and until things change with the state of our own species, I will always be misanthropic.

So what if we have opposable thumbs? And complex nerves and whatnot? Who cares? None of that makes humans look any less boring to me, so no it's NOT wrong. And no, I DON'T have to relate to humans, so stop trying to convince me to like or relate to humans, please.

I am currently working on a book involving non-humans. Lately I have been trying to think of ways to mature my book, and I'm willing to do a lot of things to mature the book. The one thing I am NOT willing to do (besides make it a sexual book or something like that) is make the book about humans. There are people out there DYING for media that doesn't star humans, as well as people who, believe it or not, could care less what the star of the book is. If it's well made, people will read a book that's not about humans. I would rather make a book about non-humans that breaks even at best than make a book about humans that makes millions. If people want to read about humans, there's thousands upon thousands of other books that star humans. My book is for people like me who want something different.

That's basically my two cents on those comments. Not everyone likes/relates to humans. Some people don't want the same human story over and over and over. Some people want something different. Sure, we get animated movies for those who don't want humans, and a few games every once in a while. But for every form of media about non-humans, there's 5 to 10 where humans are the absolute good and all other life is scum.

Most people are non-furry humans. That is the truth. Is it really a major surprise that as a result most of the games feature humans? The average college freshman bro who plays Xbox between waking up with a hangover and skipping class doesn't want to play Call of Duty with horse-people. He really just wants to frag people and not have to wonder where all the horses are coming from. Games reflect their broader audience, honestly. The only reason we have the game industry that we have today is because of the people that came to play them. That can be said about a lot of things that aren't strictly furry-related.


And who says that humans are always bad and animals are always good? Dolphins do some pretty messed up stuff, including bullying and rape (seriously). Monkeys have been documented killing and eating their young. Necrophiliac rape has been observed in ducks. I know you conceded that animals aren't always good and humans aren't always bad, but the tone of your argument almost seems to betray a bit of insincerity with that statement. Not saying that is what you are actually meaning, but that is how it comes off.


They are video games, not major statements about our society designed to make us ponder deeply about us as a species. Tetris isn't some grand treatise upon how our disparate aspects of ourselves must be brought together to make a more fulfilling whole. I'm really sorry, but there are a lot more things more pertinent than this to get worked up about. Games for furries exist. Games with anthros exist. The large prevalence of human-oriented games doesn't negate these games' existence. I really wish most games were as deep and complex as Dwarf Fortress, but that isn't what most people want. Whatevs, I can deal.


And besides, what does this have to do with people trolling furries? Stuff like this is really just extra cannon fodder. The louder you yell the more people start to look at you. It is the same regardless if you are a person standing in a busy mall or if you are getting in impassioned debates online.