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Russian Georgian Conflict
« on: August 12, 2008, 02:38:58 AM »
Two nations that were formerly a part of the Soviet Union, are in armed conflict with one another over issues still unclear.

Georgia had been initiating military actions within a breakaway republic of Ossetia, near the Russian border, and so had moved military forces into the area, And Russia launched air attacks against numerous military bases well within Ossetia and Georgia. Russian tanks and Troops mobilized and invaded Georgian territory, prompting armed response from the Georgian Military.

Russia Claims that People within Ossetia with Russian Citizenship needed protection from Georgian Aggression, while Georgia claims Russia attacked them with no provocation and therefore their actions should be seen as completely hostile.

Prime Minister Putin of Russia returned from the Olympics in Beijing to deal with the conflict, justifying Russia's actions to their fullest. President Bush of the United States had been conferring with Putin over the issue during their time together at the Olympics.

The Conflict is still not recognized as an official war between the Republic of Georgia and the Russian Federation, though thousands of civilians have been killed and numerous cities in Ossetia have been leveled. Both Sides are blaming the other for the damage.

The Georgian President called for the United States to help, Diplomatically, Militarily, any measures to assist in their struggle. The United States, already involved in wars in two middle-eastern countries, has been hesitant to make any statements on Military action, while US Diplomats are in talks with Russian officials.

Presidential Candidates Senator Barack Obama and Senator John McCain both have sent urgent messages to Russian officials, asking for a peaceful ceasefire and resolution of the conflict.

Russia refuses any Diplomatic solutions till Georgia withdraws from Ossetia and signs a binding non-aggression pact with Ossetia and another break-away republic Abkhazian.

Georgian Forces report that Russian Forces moved with direct precision and purpose, raising cries of pre-planned invasion and assault.

The Conflict still rages.

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Re: Russian Georgian Conflict
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2008, 08:19:48 PM »
If you ask me, Georgie is going to end up doing something very stupid before November 2nd. Something that will wipe out the world.
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Re: Russian Georgian Conflict
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2008, 10:08:01 PM »
The US and Russia have been on uneasy terms since the fall of the Soviet Union.

Nuclear attacks on Russia would prompt a retaliation, and I heavily doubt Even Bush would do something that risky.
Invasion of the Russian Mainland would also prompt a possible retaliation, not to mention the costly amount of men and equipment that would need to be fronted and even diverted from the middle-east conflict. Assistance to the Georgian military within Georgian borders may cause Russia to claim the US is assisting an Enemy of Russia in aggressive measures.

American Troops deployed to European soil for combat duty, that hasn't happened in a few decades.

Diplomacy by part of the US seems about the only possible peaceful end to the conflict.


Putin, or at least his advisers and military leaders, should be the people to keep your eyes on.
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Re: Russian Georgian Conflict
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2008, 08:58:32 PM »
I wouldn't say so. I know what you said makes sense, but since when did anything that Bush Jr. did make sense? If you ask me, he will most likely declare war against Russia. Not to cause a second cold war, but with out realization causing ww3.
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Re: Russian Georgian Conflict
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2008, 01:18:30 PM »
Then again keep in mind that As President, while he is Commander in chief, he still does not have war making capabilities, he has staying power and a final say in some things, and he can ask congress to declare war, but Bush is in to place to declare anything on anyone right now.

The Conflict continues within Ossetia, Georgian and Russian Forces continue to clash while the international community tries to resolve the issue.

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Re: Russian Georgian Conflict
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2008, 06:11:14 PM »
They're sounding a lot like kids now, bickering about each other breaking the ceasefire pacts. But then again, Georgia's sudden violence against journalists doesn't really help the cause... =s

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Re: Russian Georgian Conflict
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2008, 07:29:52 PM »
Yeah... then again, look at european history, they've always been about border disputes.
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Re: Russian Georgian Conflict
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2008, 03:15:35 AM »
Russia signed a ceasefire agreement.
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Re: Russian Georgian Conflict
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2008, 07:22:29 PM »
yeah, Germany signed one too, then ww2 happened.
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Re: Russian Georgian Conflict
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2008, 12:10:00 AM »
Tensions between Russia and Georgia have always been tense.

Germany was forced into an armistice in order to end world war 1, and though US President Woodrow Wilson offered the 14 points which could have helped avoid the second world war, the French government wanted to keep Germany from being able to make war against them again. Adolf Hitler, a Rejected Art Student and angry youth, sought power and change for what he saw as a better Germany, and so used terror tactics, deceit and fear as his tools to gain power. The world sat back and appeased him for fear of war, and as such he was allowed to push his advances more and more till we had the most destructive conflict in Human History.

Russia was not forced into signing the agreement, however the terms are slightly more beneficial to Russian Interests. This newest version that Both Russia and Georgia have signed is slightly unfair, however it is still no assurance of a complete and total end of hostilities.


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Re: Russian Georgian Conflict
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2008, 04:11:36 AM »
Yeah well..... How many times have coutries done things such as that only to turn around and break the agrrement.

Germany and Russia for example, back in WW2. They signed a peace agreement  in wich both country got half of Poland, regaining territory that was taken away with the treaty of Versailles. Within that year Hitler had moved his armies against Russia.
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Re: Russian Georgian Conflict
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2008, 06:34:04 PM »
Germany is not a part of this equation, unless NATO deploys or Germany itself mobilizes its military.

Russian Forces have been showing signs of Withdrawal, and Georgian cities previously occupied by them have also been left.

Russia is not signing an agreement with a fearful west and gaining more and more European Territory. Russia isn't signing non-aggression pacts with mutually fearful nations bordering their interests. Ossetia and Abkhazian are both in themselves unrecognized nations that will not join Russia due to their own proclaimed sovereignty, Georgia has been making attempts at crushing Rebel opposition from these breakaway republics in order to absolve them and undo the fractured Georgia that they had created.

If Russia was to attempt and gain new territory in any of these three nations, armed resistance would meet them at the gates. From Kalishnakovs to Stones, people would stand and resist, as they had when Georgia tried to regain their territory, or as Georgia had during the Russian Invasion.

Also, that particular region is a contributor to the world's Oil Supply, and seeing as how Russia is using it's vast oil fields to gain it's economic strength back, this could lead to more conflict.

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Re: Russian Georgian Conflict
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2008, 08:54:34 PM »
Russia broke the ceasefire this morning and captured Georgian troops.  :umm:

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Re: Russian Georgian Conflict
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2008, 01:32:00 AM »
Then it wasnt a Ceasefire, it could have been an agreement to specific terms.

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Re: Russian Georgian Conflict
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2008, 01:53:34 AM »
It was, unfoutunately, a ceasefire. *sigh*

Russia claims that it was Georgia who overstepped the boarders, but the fact of the matter is that they have POWs during a ceasefire.

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