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Real or Not?
« on: April 19, 2009, 04:52:33 PM »
I was wondering what your guys believes are on some of our questionable creatures.

People are always wondering about the Sasquatch (Big Foot), El Chupacabre, and even my personal favorite WEREWOLVES!!!! as well as many others
Put a creature down and explain why or why you don't you believe in it.

I'll start with werewolves. I actually DO believe in these fascinating creatures. There have been sightings of remains with human characteristics with a tail bone and enlarged wolf like skull. And everyone knows of the deaths where the body is NEVER found. thats simply because a werewolf ate it :P

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Re: Real or Not?
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2009, 05:10:04 PM »
I think dragons were real at some point. Maybe not the way we think they look, but out of all the dinosaurs that existed, one of them had to at least resemble a dragon.

I also believe vampires are real, to an extent. Not the Hollywood kind, and I think most of the "real" vampires aren't actually real.
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Re: Real or Not?
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2009, 05:13:30 PM »
I think lots of things are real, actually. It makes the world interesting >.>

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Re: Real or Not?
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2009, 05:21:05 PM »
I was wondering what your guys believes are on some of our questionable creatures.

People are always wondering about the Sasquatch (Big Foot), El Chupacabre, and even my personal favorite WEREWOLVES!!!! as well as many others
Put a creature down and explain why or why you don't you believe in it.

I'll start with werewolves. I actually DO believe in these fascinating creatures. There have been sightings of remains with human characteristics with a tail bone and enlarged wolf like skull. And everyone knows of the deaths where the body is NEVER found. thats simply because a werewolf ate it :P
Big Foot: Maybe, but very unlikely. The only explanation I can think of is a descendant from monkeys like us, but didn't evolve intelligence and kept the full body hair. But again, unlikely, I'm pretty sure we've discovered just about every species of mammal on Earth, tiny bugs and organisms are all that remain.

El Chupacabre: Hard to say, seeing how most accounts on it's physical appearance vary, but I don't think so for the same reason as Big Foot.

Were-Wolves: No. Sorry mate, but no creature can change back and forth from such two DRASTICALLY different creatures on a regular basis. Things like, hair, bones, and bone structure don't change like that very quickly.

I think dragons were real at some point. Maybe not the way we think they look, but out of all the dinosaurs that existed, one of them had to at least resemble a dragon.
I'm going to have to say no, Zephyr. Show me a reptile or mammal with 6 limbs and we'll talk.

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Re: Real or Not?
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2009, 05:23:15 PM »

Big Foot: Maybe, but very unlikely. The only explanation I can think of is a descendant from monkeys like us, but didn't evolve intelligence and kept the full body hair. But again, unlikely, I'm pretty sure we've discovered just about every species of mammal on Earth, tiny bugs and organisms are all that remain.


I think dragons were real at some point. Maybe not the way we think they look, but out of all the dinosaurs that existed, one of them had to at least resemble a dragon.
I'm going to have to say no, Zephyr. Show me a reptile or mammal with 6 limbs and we'll talk.

Hate to be such a party pooper, but I like being the voice of reason.

Two things: one: we didn't evolve from monkeys. Us and monkeys evolved from a common ancestor.

Two: where the heck did you pull "six limbs" from?

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Re: Real or Not?
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2009, 05:36:02 PM »
I think dragons were real at some point. Maybe not the way we think they look, but out of all the dinosaurs that existed, one of them had to at least resemble a dragon.
I'm going to have to say no, Zephyr. Show me a reptile or mammal with 6 limbs and we'll talk.

Are you talking about "six limbs" being four legs, plus two wing arms?

Like I said, they may not have looked the way they are in pictures today. That's an important part of my sentence. They could have been something closer to wyverns, or Chinese dragons - either one still counts as a dragon to me.
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Re: Real or Not?
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2009, 06:04:10 PM »
I think dragons were real at some point. Maybe not the way we think they look, but out of all the dinosaurs that existed, one of them had to at least resemble a dragon.
I'm going to have to say no, Zephyr. Show me a reptile or mammal with 6 limbs and we'll talk.

Are you talking about "six limbs" being four legs, plus two wing arms?

Like I said, they may not have looked the way they are in pictures today. That's an important part of my sentence. They could have been something closer to wyverns, or Chinese dragons - either one still counts as a dragon to me.
Yes, wings are limbs as well.

Okay, if you exclude those kind of dragons it could work, Chinese dragons though wouldn't work too well, serpents just don't fly very well. Wyverns however are probably the most plausible kind, if as you said, they evolved from dinosaurs (In this case probably a pterodactyl).

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Re: Real or Not?
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2009, 06:09:04 PM »
Were-Wolves: No. Sorry mate, but no creature can change back and forth from such two DRASTICALLY different creatures on a regular basis. Things like, hair, bones, and bone structure don't change like that very quickly.
Like winged said I don't believe they are like what Hollywood portrays them to be, they I doubt they change so frequently like that, but if you read up on them as much as I do, they seem to be more and more realistic.

They may not even be human at all, but a new breed of creatures. We have definitely not discovered all mammals and scientists even say that. Many people have supposedly encountered them, and whether or not they have, no one has actually said they have seen a transformation. So I don't believe they have much if any human in them, maybe the characteristics, but as for actually BEING human... Lycanthropy is a bunch of bull

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Re: Real or Not?
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2009, 06:20:45 PM »
Were-Wolves: No. Sorry mate, but no creature can change back and forth from such two DRASTICALLY different creatures on a regular basis. Things like, hair, bones, and bone structure don't change like that very quickly.
Like winged said I don't believe they are like what Hollywood portrays them to be, they I doubt they change so frequently like that, but if you read up on them as much as I do, they seem to be more and more realistic.

They may not even be human at all, but a new breed of creatures. We have definitely not discovered all mammals and scientists even say that. Many people have supposedly encountered them, and whether or not they have, no one has actually said they have seen a transformation. So I don't believe they have much if any human in them, maybe the characteristics, but as for actually BEING human... Lycanthropy is a bunch of bull
So you're suggesting, without the transformation, some sort of half-human, half-wolf? If so, it begs the question how could it have evolved? Wolves and humans are very different creatures, two completely separate evolutionary paths. Where would a half-human, half-wolf fit in?

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Re: Real or Not?
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2009, 06:22:59 PM »
Totally believe in dragons. Werewolves, not too likely, but I'm not talking about them changing from human to wolf, I mean something like half wolf all of the time. But like I said, not too likely. And why not a dragon that breathes fire? There's the bombardier beetle that can mix two chemicals that makes a type of boiling acid liquid, so why not a lizard or dinosaur that had the same type of abilities?
People thought unicorns were most resembling a narwhal, but late last year, there was a deer with a birth defect where there was a single horn on the top of its head, so its possible that early peoples saw one in their time and said "OMG! A UNICORN!!!"
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Re: Real or Not?
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2009, 06:38:21 PM »
With the werewolf thing... it is not possible for an animal to carry a human bred creature but the other way around is possible, there are zoopheliacs out there, hope this isn't against forum rules talking bout this, but if a human female decided to carry a wolf bred child, and it managed to survive, God only knows if that's possible.

It has been done, but it died shortly after birth. If say it survived afterwords could it be possible this is our werewolf? what kind of brain would it have? the human? or the wolf? if it carried the wolf brain or even half, that could explain why it attacks other creatures.

This topic is creating a lot of dispute, however it is harmless dispute, which is what i was aiming for :)

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Re: Real or Not?
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2009, 06:59:11 PM »
i only believe in aliens for now, but dragons could have existed there is nothing unnatural about it for example: there is bug who can ''breath'' fire.
but it could not exist in this time. we would have known if a 75 foot dragon lived somewhere on this earth

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« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2009, 07:19:57 PM »
People thought unicorns were most resembling a narwhal, but late last year, there was a deer with a birth defect where there was a single horn on the top of its head, so its possible that early peoples saw one in their time and said "OMG! A UNICORN!!!"

I could believe that some kind of unicorn(s) have existed too.
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Re: Real or Not?
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2009, 07:40:42 PM »
With the werewolf thing... it is not possible for an animal to carry a human bred creature but the other way around is possible, there are zoopheliacs out there, hope this isn't against forum rules talking bout this, but if a human female decided to carry a wolf bred child, and it managed to survive, God only knows if that's possible.

It has been done, but it died shortly after birth. If say it survived afterwords could it be possible this is our werewolf? what kind of brain would it have? the human? or the wolf? if it carried the wolf brain or even half, that could explain why it attacks other creatures.

This topic is creating a lot of dispute, however it is harmless dispute, which is what i was aiming for :)
As I understand it, this would probably be the most likely way for a werewolf type creature to happen, but in most cases the wolf and human DNA wouldn't "click" and would result in the baby's death. Getting it right would be terribly difficult.

Also, on topic of Unicorns, of all the mythical creatures discussed so far Unicorns are the most plausible. As long as only difference we're talking about is the horn I see no reason why an equine wouldn't evolve to have such a defense mechanism.

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Re: Real or Not?
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2009, 02:17:02 PM »
Yea. I think the chromosomes arn't right for wolves and humans to make a baby successfully. Even if it did survive, it would have serious birth defects, and probably die shortly after birth.

 

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