I hate them so much!

[Shenzii]

haha!

that's what I'm talkin about Scautty!

[Asia Kali Yusufzai]

Yeah, but the "mainstream rap image" is what makes people money

unless you're kanye west or eminem or some other ones who i've totally forgotten the name of

also, fat hip hop? look no further than Missy Elliot (although she had to really fight for her place in front of the people)

[Uncertainty]

Yeah, but the "mainstream rap image" is what makes people money

unless you're kanye west or eminem or some other ones who i've totally forgotten the name of

also, fat hip hop? look no further than Missy Elliot (although she had to really fight for her place in front of the people)

Yeah, but Kanye West got popular by thinking he was the best thing since sliced bread, and Eminem got famous for catering to homophobes and bigots.

[Scautty]

That's true. And, no offense, he's a funny white rapper.

[Asia Kali Yusufzai]

Yeah, but Kanye West got popular by thinking he was the best thing since sliced bread.

Personally I think it's his songs that got him popular, particularly big ones like Jesus Walks

and Eminem got famous for catering to homophobes and bigots

uhhh... wait what? The guy is a white rapper who has had to fight against racism to get where he is, and he played on stage with Elton John (not to mention that little stunt with Sacha Baron Cohen). He says offensive things in some of his songs because the point is to say the most offensive things in jest, in the same way Russel Peters says obscenely racist things, yet almost everyone recognises that he's joking, particularly because he says racist stuff about everybody.

[Shenzii]

Yeah, but Kanye West got popular by thinking he was the best thing since sliced bread.

Personally I think it's his songs that got him popular, particularly big ones like Jesus Walks

Indeed Kanye West's Jesus Walks is very popular because it hits a strong topic. He's has many other hits like Love Lockdown, Heartless, Stronger, Touch the Sky.

and Eminem got famous for catering to homophobes and bigots

uhhh... wait what? The guy is a white rapper who has had to fight against racism to get where he is, and he played on stage with Elton John (not to mention that little stunt with Sacha Baron Cohen). He says offensive things in some of his songs because the point is to say the most offensive things in jest, in the same way Russel Peters says obscenely racist things, yet almost everyone recognises that he's joking, particularly because he says racist stuff about everybody.

I have to agree, catering to Homophobes had nothing to do with his becoming famous. Eminem has fought his way to where he is now, and in ways.. he's a good influence. I mean if you listen to his songs they actually speak truth and that's more than most Rappers do. He doesn't rap about sex, or alcohol. He sings about what he's been through and he's told his story. In the song Beautiful he gives advice and also seems to tell you things. I mean he doesn't have a problem with gays... He, like Assiabunny said, performed with Elton john. The whole Sasha Baren Cohen event, would have made me angry. Eminem says offensive things, but no one really take them to heart... and if anyone does, then they don't understand what he's getting at. I think everything he says is for a reason.

But getting back on topic.

The Jonas brothers sing about love and yes it's nice but there are so many love songs that overpower the Boy's talents. I mean come on Celine Dion's Heart will go on... That far exceeds the Jonas Boys. And half the things they sing about simply bug me... like Love bug... It's ANNOYING!

[Asia Kali Yusufzai]

My heart will go on is the most cliche ridden song i've ever heard. I can see why people like it but it's so... basic?

[Shenzii]

Yea exactly why i used it to compare. Jonas Boys just dont have the ability to do a song like that, something so basic, and still make it sound GREAT

[blackmetal_bear]

It's sad that they probably have someone else write their music for them, and it still sucks. I guess it doesn't help that they suck as performers. And I don't buy the purity ring nonsense one bit. Although, I guess as far as general society goes, gay sex probably wouldn't cancel out the effects of a purity ring. Ha.

[Asia Kali Yusufzai]

I totally understand those who wont have sex until marriage (I am one of them) but having a ring to prove that... i dont know, it just doesnt make sense to me. It's like, why do you need it? and why put your sex life as a statement rather than just a decision.

[Scautty]

I think it's more to advertise their Disney-ness, and people took it wrong, like they're hiding something. Who knows if they are, but being able to see such a thing just leaves people open for questions.

By the way, totally hilarious that a Jonas Brothers thread is breaching five pages.

[Asia Kali Yusufzai]

well to be fair, this is less about the brothers themselves, and more about what they represent... disney

[Scautty]

Haha, if it were a Disney thread it would be about family fun and weird subliminal messages rather than what Disney has been forcively digesting in their downfall. The Jonas Brothers ladies and gentlemen.

[Asia Kali Yusufzai]

but the Jonas Brothers ARE family fun and weird subliminal messages... ok so i dont know what the messages are, but they have to be in there somewhere

[Scautty]

It's the rings. They represent subliminally ANYTHING you want!

So they're terrorists. End of story.